Not Another NuForce thread......


Ok, first I am not shill or related to, or affiliated with NuForce in any way...I just thought that we should have a thread to discuss the V2...

I just placed the Reference 9 SE "V2" in my system after living with the NuForce 9 SE for the past year and auditioning the Reference 9 V2 for the past 2 months...

I am putting out there for comment and debate that the Reference 9 SE V2 is one of the top 5 best amplifiers out there and currently available. (I personally think that it one of the top 3, but I am leaving room for argument)

Sitting in my room last night I was reminded of one of those transforming audio experiences. My first ones was couple of hours with the Sinus Faber Amati Homage pushed with a full compliment of the top of the line ML gear all with in a perfectly treated room....My experience with the Reference 9 SE V2 was like that...

Please comment if you are able on the V2 in general, what was your experience?? Are your thought of the Reference 9 SE V2 the same??
jb8312

Showing 5 responses by viclondon

9rw,
have you ever thought about getting a life? It could seriously improve your general mood.
We are just talking bloody hi-fi, if you are not interested in Nuforce you could go elsewhere, take up golf, get a vacation, a better job, make a friend, just stop insulting people for no reason.
I really feel sorry for you, for the way you are intruding this thread and for all the people you have insulted
I am probably the first person to have bought a Ref 9 SE v2 in Great Britain.
Before upgrading from my humble Unison Unico (but I have owned a fair share of respectable stuff in the past) I auditioned a lot of the most hyped amps in this side of the pond for the same price braket, including Krell, Primare, Bryston, Bel Canto, Moon, McIntosh, EAR Yoshino, Meridian, and a few more. To my ears there was not even a remote competition: the NuForce were in a totally different league.
I don't have the same experience of many here, but I have own my share of equipment in the last 30 years and I have been going to hifi shows constantly. I was always thinking that amps at any price point were a compromise, I never find one that for my taste was totally right (far from that). I listen to an extremely broad palette of music and these are my findings:
- Some really good tube amps have a marvellous tonality and magic mids when listening to simple acoustic music or classic, but every single one that I have heard fall apart whenever things get more dynamic or electric and in a lot of cases bass get slow and muddy
- A few very good (and very expensive) solid state amps get the bass and dynamic much better, but mids and highs are often grainy, dry, or uninvolving. Very few SS amps get close to what I wanted, but they are extremely expensive, bulky, heavy and generate tonnes of heat.

With the NuForce I have finally got something that is not a compromise, or an amp that forces me to listen just to a certain kind of music. To my ears and for the sort of music I listen to it is the only amp that totally satisfy me, at any price point.

PS: in this thread I have seen a couple of the nastiest people I have met in forums
jb8312,
Nuforce is an extremely revealing amp; it cannot compensate for poor recordings. If there was an amp that could make "Californication" sound properly million of people would buy it...
NF amps are also extremely fussy about all the ancillary equipment. Yesterday I was contacted by a member of a UK forum who was curious abut the NF, as he wanted a summer amp to get besides his McIntosh 275; he asked me to come to an audition. We spent a few hours of good time listening and we did some cable swapping. The differences we heard were very noticeable to say the least.
I was a bit nervous about his judgment because my rig is totally American:
Opus 21>NF ref9SE v2>gallo ref3II
so the sound of my rig is very, very lively, the way I like it, but totally different from the general British sound, very polite (always please and thank you) and laid back. To make a long story short, the next day he went all the way to the NuForce dealer and not just for the summer, but for all seasons...
GCIL,
I have a resolution Audio Opus 21 and I briefly tried to drive my NF ref9SE v2 into my Gallos ref 3 II directely through the output of the Opus 21: I only kept it for 15 minutes and then inserted a Minimax tube preamp. The difference was absolutely night and day.
I have had the Opus for a couple of years and tried it with a lot of associated gear. It is my favourite CDP but in my experience (and many others') the line stage is absolutelly terrible: I always found that there is a real big increase in quality using the DIN output (which bypasses the volume control) compared to the DIN and the XLR.
So if you have heard the Nuforce directely driven by the Opus 21, I am not surprised that you didn't like them
Me too can't wait for version 10, 11 and 12 to come out. I will skip 13 though as it is an unnlucky number, but then will get 14 and 15 at the same time.
Nuforce gives the chance to keep up whit a fast growing technology at almost no cost, which is great. Also it is the best way to keep upgraditeis under control