I owned the Valhalla loudspeakercable for over 12 years of time. And several Valhalla powercables. I sold Nordost for over 9 yeras of time and also sold a lot of Valhalla. To be honest it was and is still incomplete. When I was at the Highend Show in Munic I could predict the stage of many systems with Odin before we heard them. All the systems had only 1 metre of depth. This is very limitd in the world of highend. I would not buy either of them!! There are enough better cables these days.