No image from Vandersteen 2ci sigs?


I'm new to the hobby & just put my system together with 2c's, a CJ MF2200 & a PV 10AL. I can't seem to get the speakers to image well in my room. The speakers are forced to be kiti-corner in the room fairly close to the side walls & rear walls (i.e. every side less than two feet away from the wall, more like 1 foot in spots) No matter where I place the speakers I just can't get a nice image or soundstage. The room does not allow many options for placement & I really have no other choice than place the speakers on the outer edges of the entertainment center. I really love the natural sound of the speakers but am missing the soundstage that I really desire. What can be done in this room?
fishwater

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Fishwater - The Vandies DO image well. The problem is the proximity of the speakers to the walls and if that entertainment center is in front of the plane of the speakers or even with, their sound is going to suffer.

I owned the 2c's for 10 years and when I moved I encountered a problem similar to yours in the new room. They never worked and I reluctantly gave up. Subsequent speakers never eliminated the room problem I suffered from and I ended up setting up in another room a few years ago.

In their original location(my previous home) they were out in the open and were wonderful, providing all the important elements of music reproduction including excellent staging and imaging but more importantly their full range performance and balance was totally satisfying.

Recommendations would be to get rid of the entertainment center and move the speakers out and closer together, if this is at all possible. A tall order but while you may get better imaging from another design, you will never get maximum staging with your current room configuration.
Fishwater try this site acousticsfirst.com They offer various room treatments for noise, home theater and music systems. If you submit a drawing of your room with all dimensions and placement of everything within the room they may be able to guide you with room treatments that can maximize your system. It wouldn't hurt at this point as your options seem quite limited. Last thing you want to do now is jump into another speaker until you explore all options otherwise you will end up spinning your wheels. Unsound's advice is sound and definitely worth exploring further.

Steve, no offense meant but as nice as the Pass aleph amps are, it seems quite clear the Pass isn't going to cure the problem Fishwater is experiencing. Room and placement is first and paramount in setting up a system properly.