No image from Vandersteen 2ci sigs?


I'm new to the hobby & just put my system together with 2c's, a CJ MF2200 & a PV 10AL. I can't seem to get the speakers to image well in my room. The speakers are forced to be kiti-corner in the room fairly close to the side walls & rear walls (i.e. every side less than two feet away from the wall, more like 1 foot in spots) No matter where I place the speakers I just can't get a nice image or soundstage. The room does not allow many options for placement & I really have no other choice than place the speakers on the outer edges of the entertainment center. I really love the natural sound of the speakers but am missing the soundstage that I really desire. What can be done in this room?
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Showing 2 responses by sdcampbell

Proper placement is a fairly important to achieving the best performance from any speaker, and the Vandy 2Ce is no exception. The owner's manual that comes with the Vandy 2-series and 3-series speakers is quite specific about setup, although I have found that some toe-in is often beneficial.

It would be helpful in formulating a response to your question to know more about the size and arrangement of your listening room. For example:
1. what are the room dimensions, including the ceiling shape?
2. where is the furniture placed in relation to your speakers?
3. is there any furniture between the speakers (such as your entertainment center), or between the speakers and your listening spot?

One problem I can immediately identify is the proximity of the speakers to the side and rear walls. To get the best sound from your Vandy speakers, they really need to be at least 3 feet from side walls, with a minimum of 2 feet (and preferably 3 feet or more) from the rear walls.
I think everyone who has responded to your question is reasonably certain that the lack of imaging, etc., is due to poor speaker placement. If there is any way to re-arrange your room before you give up on your Vandy's, you really should try.
Until you get the speakers away from the side walls, however, and out in front of your entertainment center, there isn't much likelihood that you will achieve the sound quality you want. When the Vandy's are properly located in the room, they are a fine speaker with the qualities you desire.

For what it's worth, my listening room is about the same size as yours, and I have an entertainment center between my Vandy 3A Sig's. However, I don't have the French doors to contend with. My speakers are located about 4 feet from the side walls (measured from the outside edge of the speaker), and about 30" from the rear wall (measured from the back of the speaker). The front of the speakers are about 12" beyond the front plane of the entertainment center which houses my TV and audio gear. The speakers are slightly toed-in toward the primary listening spot, and while my arrangement is hardly the best, I get good sound (imaging, soundstaging, frequency balance, etc.).

Hope you are able to find a solution to your dilemma that does not force you to sell your Vandy 2Ce Sig's, which are a very good speaker.