Newbie question: Amplifiers, Volume, Clipping?


I've just got my first proper stereo. It's a bit of a mixed bag of used gear and the speakers + amp aren't ideally matched. I'm continually concerned about blowing something by turning it up too much. The issue isn't too much amp power, it's too little, which I've heard is more dangerous. I need to know what I should be listening for as far as signs of clipping and how high I can turn my volume dial to be safe (noon? 3 o'clock?)

The pieces:
Xindac integrated tube amplifier. 40 Watts Pentode, 18 Watts Triode. (I've been too worried to try 18Watt Triode...)

Old Celestion Ditton 442s. "Amplifier requirements" are 20-120 watts and sensitivity is: "2.9 Watts of pink noise input produces 90dB SPL at one meter...".

Grateful for advice!
fakr

Showing 2 responses by bifwynne

Hi Al and Hifihvn: I had a question about tube amp clipping. In the case where the tube amp uses output trannies, if the signal fed to the primary coils in the output trannies clips, what type of output is induced into the secondaries?

Let me elaborate. Al explained that "[c]lipping means that the positive and negative peaks of what would normally be a smooth sinusoidal waveform will abruptly transition to a flat, essentially constant output level corresponding to the maximum positive and negative voltages that the amp is capable of delivering."

So, if the input to the primary coils transitions to a flat non-alternating voltage, is it possible to induce a voltage in the secondaries?? If the answer is no, I would think that the clipping would be expressed as a distorted output wave form, but not necessarily of a type that would damage speakers. I imagine the distortion would sound terrible though.

Alternatively, if the signal fed into the primary coils wildly oscillates as bursts of positive and negative voltage, wouldn't the output voltage still be limited to some extent by the output trannies? I suppose in this case, while the output trannies wouldn't be passing pure DC to the speakers, the widely oscillating signal fed into the primaries could induce bursts of oscillating DC voltage which perhaps in extreme cases might damage speakers.

I ask because I own a 130 wpc tube amp that drives speakers having a sensitivity 89 db and a nominal impedance of 8 ohms. As you might imagine, my rig can get quite loud without having to push the amp. Hence I am somewhat dubious that I clip the amp because my wife would start screaming bloody murder to turn the da** stereo down way before a clip. She's better than any speaker fuse on the market today. I would say she a hyper fast fuse -- a real live wire.

Thanks for the clarification.
Blindjim, I'm with you. Tonight I was listening to an old record that I've owned for 35+ years, George Solti conducting Chicago Symph. Orchestra, Beethoven 9th (London ffrr LP), 4th movement. As is often the case with classical music, Beethoven's 9th, especially the 4th movement, is very dynamic with large swings in SPL. When the full chorus and orchestra were going full tilt, the SPL caused my ears to literally distort. All I could hear was a buzzing sound even though I knew the music was clear as a bell.

So my point is that while you are concerned about turning the gain up too high out of concern for blowing your speakers, I am concerned about blowing my ear drums. Although . . . to actually have been there to hear the 9th live with the chorus and orchestra going full tilt must have been one he*l of an experience. I'll just know to bring ear plugs if I can catch the 9th live now.