I find it a bit surprising, the concept of buying "all new". When buying higher end equipment, my assumption, and experience, is that it's going to last for decades. Why then, would anyone be concerned with a couple years of use? I'm getting 90% of the life and paying 50 -60% of the new price. Big dollars to get the new car smell. IMHO There have been times when buying used is simply not an option. In those cases I look for a minimum 25% off asking.