New to digital high-end, need help


I'm a long-time audiophile that ripped all my CDs to flac over the past year. I've been listening through Duets/Touch for office and casual use. I have not really had a high-end home system in 6 years. Now I'm building a high-end system that will use a digital/flac source.

I have Aerial 10t speakers and currently looking for a pre/amps (possibly Audio Research or Classe). I'm familiar with the arguments for SS or tubes, etc. I need help with the source/dac/volume control because, after all my research and reading, it feels like I still don't have a clue . . .

1.) I'm using a Squeezebox Touch connected with wifi. At what price point can I expect a DAC to make a dramatic difference? $500? $1,000? $3,000?

2.) I would consider bypassing a preamp/linestage for now and using a DAC with volume control (or similar setup)I use an iPad mini for the Touch remote at this point, but the volume can be finicky and I would like to use the volume control on DAC/preamp to limit the max while using the ipad.

3.) I have read the digital volume controls (such as Touch/iPad??) actually decrease resolution as the volume is decreased. Is this true? Does that mean the Touch volume should always be at 100%?? 75%?

4.) I've heard $60k systems and owned $20k systems (just to provide a reference point). Are digital files successfully used in that level of system? Can they sound as good as a quality CD source? If so, what caliber of equipment is necessary/desirable?

Thanks to anyone that can help me muddle through this process.
amansker

Showing 3 responses by audioengr

"At what price point can I expect a DAC to make a dramatic difference?"

more than $1K but maybe not as high as $3K

A Qute DAC ($1795) with the right power supply ($699) and USB cable filter ($199) is quite excellent. The ripping/playback software and the computer platform also matter however.

"I would like to use the volume control on DAC/preamp to limit the max while using the ipad"

This is a good strategy and one that I often use as shows. The problem is finding a really good volume technology in the DAC. This one has it:
http://www.audiostream.com/content/empirical-audio-overdrive-se-usb-dacpre

" I have read the digital volume controls (such as Touch/iPad??) actually decrease resolution as the volume is decreased. Is this true?"

I have done these comparisons. If you do more than about -10dB, you will notice degradation. I like to adjust the volume to a quiet track and then when a louder track plays, I reduce the volume digitally using Amarra by no more than about -9dB.

"Are digital files successfully used in that level of system? Can they sound as good as a quality CD source?"

Yes and even better than a CD transport. The front-end is the most important thing because jitter in the digital source impacts everything downstream. A good metric for the digital source is $1500 minimum, better to spend $2200.

If you cook-up your own server, it will generally sound better than most OTS servers, with the exception of maybe the Antipodes server. I recommend for you own server to use a 2009 Mac Mini and powered from a Hynes power supply.

You can get close to this quality using your squeezebox provided you reclock it and power the reclocker from a Hynes-type supply and use a really good coax cable.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
Nightfall - yes 2009 Oct Mac Mini. Hynesdesign.com SR5-18.5 supply. I control mine from iPad at times.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
Amansker - the Final Drive transformer buffer/selector allows for introducing other analog inputs betwee DAC and amps. Improves SQ dramatically as well as other benefits like galvanic isolation. Breaks ground-loops.

See:
http://www.empiricalaudio.com/products/final-drive

Steve N.
Empirical Audio