New Technics vs. old

If you own SP-10 mkIII in a good working order then you don't need any new Technics turntable. I think with SP-10 mkII nobody needs new GR. 

For the price of G or GAE there are so many absolutely amazing vintage Direct Drive turntables and tonearms on the used market. 

It's a matter of taste, personally i don't like the visual part of the new 1200 series, because i've been using an old 1200 series for 20 years. But for people looking for simplicity this is the best choice. 

I prefer vintage Direct Drive turntables and vintage high-end tonearms

DJs have been using Thorens TD-125 mk II belt drive turntables in the late 70’s, here is a picture of the dj booth in Studio 54 (NYC) with Diana Ross on the mic. Same turntables with Infinity Black Widow tonearms and Stanton cartridges were in use at the Paradise Garage club in 1979, but replaced with Technics SL1200 mkII by the early 80’s, here is the picture of updated dj booth, the club was closed in 1987.

The only reason that the SL-1200mk2 has an almost cult-like following is because of hoards of brainwashed rap-“DJ”s that think only a SL-1200mk(x) will work with their serato record scratching toys.

Don’t try brainwash us here with your comments like the one above.

Serato was launched in 2004 by Rane, the majority of the professional DJs never use Serato or anything digital, they play original vinyl only. There are good and bad djs. Every dj shop is full of real vinyl and it sells well today.

DJs have been using Technics SL1200 since the it was made in the 70’s, then every club worldwide was equipped with SL1200 mkII by the 80’s when it became a world standard for professionals for all genres of music and all kind of DJs. We’re talking about nearly 40 years of constant use of SL1200 mkII by professionals everywhere in the world. The reason why Technics SL-1200 mkII was so popular among the djs for decades (and still popular) is because no other turntable can offer such powerfull motor with pitch control fader in a small cabinet with a nice tonearm for professional needs. This is why it was a choice of professionals since the late 70’s !

It has nothing to do with Serato or any other digital BS, for teenagers there are plenty of cheap as chips direct drive turntables available on the market for decades (gemini, stanton, vestax etc, none of them even assemblen in japan).

Technics always was a choice of professionals. And SP-10 mkII was a high-end broadcast turntable since the 70’s. Much cheaper SL1200 series was a djs choice in the clubs and studios. I remember when a brand new SL1210mkII was no more than $450 in the mid 90’s here in the Panasonic shops and i think in the USA retail price was even cheaper at that time.

Isonoe made this long time ago, believe it or not, but it was made for DJs, so an old Technics stock feet is no longer a problem for audiophiles or djs if they need suspended table (it's a matter of choise). Isonoe feet can solve bass feedback problem even if 20 000 Watt stereo sound system is near the stage with a pair of SL1200. 

People you call "rap djs" can't affect the sales of Technics more that some other djs and professionals with completely different musical taste.

P.S. Rapping came out in the late 70's as the rhyme (by MC) over the Disco beats played by DJs. But in Jamaica they been doing it much earlier in a different way over reggae and rocksteady music. Funny, but a guy with a mic was called a "deejay" in Jamaica, a person with records was called a "selector". 

You always refer to some bad taste digital DJs and blame them in everything regarding Technics. I just don't get it.  

@bimasta

Clubs like 54 didn’t do scratching or other manipulation (interference) with the record’s normal rotation — so Thorens and other belt-drive was fine.

Technics replaced all the belt drive turntables in every club and on every radiostation since it was widely available, no matter what kind of music djs have been playing. This technology is simply better, no doubt. Every professional DJs from the 70’s remembering belt drive as a nighmare and i am not talking about hip hop djs, i’m talking about people who just played the music for dancers. Technics DD is/was a choice of professionals for decades since it was introduced to the market. Different models for audiophiles (such as SP-10mkII and mkIII).

’Turntablism’ started with Rap/Hip-Hop in the early-mid ’80s.

No, it became popular (worldwide) in the mid 80’s, but it is all started in the mid-late 70’s and you can watch a lot of documentaries and interviews with people who were the pioneers of this movement. The playlists also available. Nice books with pictures etc. By the min 80’s is was ALREADY a huge worldwide phenomenon, watch Herbie Hancock "Rock it" LIVE from 1984 with DJ Grandmixer DXT with a pair of Technics DD turntables. It is not a starting point. The single released in 1983 and pressed not only in the USA, but also in Europe. The DJs have been doing it in Bronx earlier in the 70’s, but it was underground movement in black comminity, that was the beginning of what later was called "turntablism".

But i want to remind you about Jamaica and their reggae and rocksteady Sound Systems, it was there long time before it even appeared in the USA and turntables were Garrard since the 50’s.

Also i must admit that American 60’s Soul music was much more popular in England because of the legendary  Wigan Casino club started in 1973. And it was all about rare Soul records (black music) and dancing. Actually the strongest soul scene was in England and still is. They call it Northern Soul.

And "Disco" as a musical genre only started in the ’70s. I guess it came to an end when 54 became too involved with drugs — but I was long gone by then, my club days/nights were only ’66–67...

You had very short dj career, lol :)

There was The Loft in NYC opened in feb.1970 by David Mancuso he was an audiohile and DJ in Manhattan who played on Koetsu cartridges and Technics SP10 mkII DD turntable in Mitch Cotter base with FR tonearm, Klipsch speakers (i remember it from his interview). He has never ever mix records like other DJs at that time. Enough said. He was active and tried to recreate The Loft vibe nowadays until he died at the age of 72 in 2016. This is a picture with setup from his last performance.