New Mojo Mystique X


Who has ordered the new Mystique X being released later this year? I was going to buy a used Mystique V3 but they are just impossible to find. Ben had a possible trade in unit for me but the owner decided not to go ahead.

The new models carry quite a price and to take advantage of the introductory discount it seems they have to be bought unheard, just going on previous models’ reputations. Could those who are buying the new model please share their reasons why.
lemonhaze

@Divertiti

 

I agree with you about "audiophiles" vs "music lovers" is a gross over simplification. Most of us are going through a perpetual evolution as we learn and experience more.

 

At the same time, there are types of music and types of systems which are not capable of discerning the subtlety and nuance our DACs are able to deliver.

 

And the people who listen to those types of music and who own those types of systems would likely not be our best customers.

 

What you are calling "homogenized" is what I am calling "harmonically coherent." The more naturally the harmonic structure of the music is, the more the sounds blend. That's what the musicians are trying to do when they play together.

 

Much of what you are preferring (and you certainly have the right to prefer it) is actually off time and off tune which give a more separated, layered, and distinct effect.

 

My guess is you have multi-way speakers and sub woofers, right?

 

Well even though you get excellent extension and smoother/flatter frequency response you have sacrificed phase and time coherency. Simply the nature of cross overs and the comb effect and cancellation and reinforcement of multiple drivers.

 

It doesn't make a difference if we talk about an expensive Wilson, Magico, or Focal. This is the nature of cross overs and the nature of multiple drivers. You can't get around the physics. They do some things better and others worse.

 

Personally I can only listen to full frequency transducers. Single driver speakers...electrostatic speakers...planer-magnetic headphones. I'm willing to give up extension and penetration for time, tune, and coherency.

 

And personally I don't expect recorded music to sound like live music. How can it? First you have the inertia of the microphone diaphragm...then all the mediocre pro audio cables...then all the mixing and mastering stuff such as dynamic compression.

 

Did you know that your average good recording is compressed down to less than 40dB dynamic range?!?!?!? Most pop music is compressed down to 20dB dynamic range because it is engineered to sound best on Bluetooth headphones and car stereos. The best of recordings are 70dB dynamic range at most..very few of those around. All quite far from the 120dB dynamic range of live music.

 

When people try to compensate for the compression and other things lacking in their recordings with what I call "attractive distortions" there is always a price to pay. You gain in one area and lose in another.

 

This is why my personal philosophy is to do none of this in our DACs. Because once you've lost time, tune, or harmonic coherency, there is no way to regain them farther down the signal path.

 

You can always find some way to add "excitement" farther down the signal path.

 

Think about it.

We finally received the chassis which had been holding up production of our new Mystique X DAC. Currently those parts are being powder coated awaiting laser etching.

Now that we have everything in-house we are expecting to begin shipping back orders the middle of May and begin shipping new orders, dealer demos, and reviewer demos the end of May or beginning of June.

Photos of the prototype Mystique X we took to AXPONA and updated information are now on our website.

Even though the Mystique X uses the identical circuit and nearly identical parts to our Mystique EVO, due to the new chassis typology, shielding, and anti-resonance, the Mystique X has a notably lower noise floor than any DAC we've ever offered.

As you lower noise floor you not only reveal low-level details which were formerly masked by noise, you expand dynamic range. The Mystique X has insane micro-dynamics.

The bad news is that the cost of our component parts and chassis have gone up significantly in the past year. 

On June 1st Mojo Audio will officially be selling through retail distributors, all sale prices will end (we can't undercut our distributors), and prices will be going up by +$3,000 on the Mystique X and +$4,000 on the Mystique X SE.

In May we expect to have inventory of DACs on the shelf for the first time since 2017. The bad news is that once our retail distributors get their demos we're expecting to have to return to a waiting list once more.

As for additional DAC models, we have a few in prototyping which are more advanced than the Mystique X, but we won't be releasing any new models of DACs until we are certain we can keep up with demand for our new Mystique X.

No point in having waiting lists for multiple products with component part delays.

I don't find Mystique X SE noisy at all, instead it is dead silent with black back ground.

I would agree that Mystique X SE does have a sound that makes you realize you are definitely listening to this dac, I feel like Mojo is sharing a goal similar to Playback designs which is a natural and neural approach. I do find playback designs dac5 more organic but there are moments It made me miss the details and deeper bass of Mojo Mystique X SE. I would also love to learn more about the difference between 2020 Evo to X SE.

I have the Mystique V3.  It's so good I have not upgraded.  I do find you should take some time to find the right footers.  You also have to be aware of the source.  Anyone can take any piece of equipment, set it up wrong, give it a bad signal and find themselves disappointed in the performance.  Of course, what are you disappointed in?  

I just completed a review of in wall wire.  I posted it on my website.  What I find is some wires such as 8 AWG NM-B are very analytical.  I find that distracting.  I find it sort of fractures the performance and forces me to constantly be looking at the parts and pieces.  I prefer my source to act more like my 15 ips tape.  I want it to give me all the information, and do it in a way that my mind relaxes and enjoys it all at once.  Good electronics do this.  They don't hide anything.  They don't call anything out.  They provide a clean complete flow that is easy to digest and follow.  Mojo Audio DAC do as such.  They are an excellent DAC for the money.