New Marantz SA11S2?

i owned the 11s2. i would say that it has no bloom, is not warm, is slightly on the thin side.

i sold it.

i am looking for an sacd player.

i also auditioned the oppo 83 se. i prefrred the oppo to the marantz. it was easier on the ear.

my friend, whom i leant the marantz also did not like it.

incidentally, i allowed it about 500 hours before serious listening.

i doubt that i would own another marantz product.

hi aear:

what you can say is that my (idiosyncratic) taste is very different from many posters on this and other forums, and therefore, my opninions may or may not be useful to some , some of the time.

realize as well, that there are a lot of variables which underlie my comments, as well as definitions which imply warm and bloom are euphonic colorations.

however, your comment regarding reality and sonics is philosophically invalid.

hi zear:

this is the last staements on the subject, as i don't own the player , and it is an unimportant subjecy. i will also list my system.

1) i said that the player is not warm andd has no bloom. my definitions of each term imply euphonic colorations. i have noy contradicted myself because i have consistently said i find the player on the thin side., which is why i sold it. thus i have not contradicted myself. different definitions lead to different conclusions.

now as to my system:

speakers: magnepan 1.6 and quad 57
preamp:bent tvc passive:
amp:vtl deluxw 120
cables: interconnects--soundstring and cryoset copper
power cords:sound string, ear to ear and western electric copper
cables:speaker: ear to ear
other accessories: sound fusion sound busters beneath most component, furniture foam under dac and transport, chang is0 160, bob young line filter and egg crate mattresses on walls, some room tunes as well.
digital source(s):ps audio pwd and pwt, audio note cd2 and oppo 83 se.

conclusion for me is i did not contrdict myself, if you read wmy words carefully., and in absence of yje marantz in my system, there is not much more to say about the subject.

incidentally, your use of the word inaccurate as applied to the marantz is your opinion. if you don't agree with my hearing it does not suggest a defect in my hearing or system or system set up.

fortunately for both us, i assume, this discussion is not personal only the disagreements among human beings.

when i owned the marantz player, i did not own the western electric power cords. i was using ear to ear and soundstring only.

my system is rarely thin. i won't tolerate it.

the western electric power cords are not contributing a peak in the treble. they have copper iec's and plugs. i am not sure as to single or double braiding. they are 14 gauge. i have a variety of western electric cords, fabricated by a friend , this one was selecetd as being warmer than the others.

i guess i have not

hi samzsx:

tyhe western electric cords were fabricated about 6 weeks ago. i have no other information about these cords other than the iec and plug which contain copper.

here's an interesting situation:

granted the preamp and amp attenuate the treble and granted the foam and room tunes also attenuate the treble, what might explain my perception of thinness regarding the marantz player.

incidentally my friend has auditioned 2 marantz players, and his system consists of a cary tube preamp, classe ss amp and wood walls. he sold both players, one was the marantz sa11s2.

so, it would seem that one man's smoothness is another man's brighhtness.

we'll agree to disagree.

it's like zeverything else in life which is subjective.

it occurred to me that it is impossible to know the sound of any component. one listens to a stereo system. while each component contributes to the sound of a stereo system, introducing a new component into your stereo system does not provide sufficient information to identify absolutely what the new component sounds like. logic and mathematics supports this assertion.