Network Transport vs. CD Transport
Audio streaming. It’s a good place to find new music, or provide background, other than that? Meh. I prefer the simplicity of physical media.Agree, good way to look at it. Then go and buy the most uncompressed (most green boxes) CD version of it here http://dr.loudness-war.info/ which is usually the first release, or the vinyl. Cheers George |
audphile1 OP. I have faith in the Marantz, but should have at least evened up the playing field a little as far as age goes, and got a Cambridge CXC to do this A/B with instead of the 20 year old Marantz as a transport. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cambridge-Audio-CXC-CD-Transport-NO-DAC-Brand-new-sealed-in-box-/153876732980?hash=item23d3c49c34%3Ag%3Aq2YAAOSwKW5ee3pf&nma=true&si=REtmC8y9XffDyp8pqqsHonjk6m0%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cambridge-Audio-CXC-Silver-Cd-Transport-Brand-New/264625467039?hash=item3d9ce82e9f:g:N3MAAOSwGshePD1P Cheers George |
Please don't school me, what I'm saying is not so much HDCD but the 24/96 "Reference Recordings" CD's that you conveniently have not even mentioned. You need the educating not me, you have nothing but a pair of ears that can't tell between a good CD being played on a good transport against that same CD being played from a streamer it was transferred to using the same dac in both cases. |
There are no CD’s, which are Redbook, that play 24/96 music.Take that up with Professor Keith O Johnson who owns "Reference Recordings" Ok, 6 of one and 1/2 dozen of the other, they are still CD’s able to be played on normal CD player even with non HDCD and they sound magnificent. https://referencerecordings.com/format/hdcd https://referencerecordings.com/format/hrx And he was the inventor of HDCD, as well as the very sought after, even today dacs don’t come close, the Pacific Mircosonics Model One/Two D/A A/D converters, try to buy a used one, just look at the companies that use them. http://www.goodwinshighend.com/manufacturers/pacific_microsonics/pacific_microsonics_model_two.htm Cheers George |
Yes I know it’s on Youtube, but even it shows what "compression (loudness) can do to your music", imagine the difference if it were played to you on a hi-end cd/dac source and not Youtube, with CD bitrate as explained in my last post.. https://youtu.be/3Gmex_4hreQ More in depth longer explanation of what "compression (loudness) does to your music) https://youtu.be/kL13b9hCYjc Cheers George |
I am constantly amazed by the SQ of some of the material on you tube. All audio on YouTube is compressed (data rate approximately to around 126 kbps AAC) The highest in CD are the redbook pcm releases from "Reference Recordings" their CD’s sound magnificent and are 24-bit/96kHz file said to be a data rate of 4.39mbps !!!. and requires 33 megabytes of storage for a single minute of stereo audio. But good main stream Readbook 16/44 CD’s like Roger Waters Amused the Death etc etc are nearly as good and still at 1.35mbps!!!!! compared to the youtube 126kbps https://www.yoursoundmatters.com/stop-listening-to-music-on-youtube/ I think you could be a candidate to listen to early original issue non compressed CD’s. Not a remastered or even many of the new cd’s, which have nearly all been compressed. Put in your artist and album and look for mostly all green versions http://dr.loudness-war.info/ Cheers George |
audphile1 OPLike I said, your are either very smart or very lucky, many weren’t. And are spending big, changing and going round and round Now get off the streamer merry go round and listen to your CD’s on a CXC and be happy again with the music you hear.. Cheers George |
Luckily I still have all my CDs in boxes up in the attic.You are either very smart or lucky, many sold them and are now cutting their throats, or giving up on hiend audio. Marantz CD6000 Original SEShould be "ok" and uses the Sony KSS213, the other model CD6000's used the better Philips VAM1201 but I’d would say the CXC would be quite a bit better than both, I taken oscilloscope pics of the output of the CXC wave form, and even Lampizator was impressed, very little jitter, and a well formed wave form with not much rounding or distortion, I’ve posted these up you’ll have to search Audiogon’s digital forum for them Cheers George |
Here’s reviews on the Cambridge CXC Transport https://www.tnt-audio.com/sorgenti/cambridge_cxc_e.html https://www.whathifi.com/au/cambridge-audio/cxc/review https://www.audiotrends.com.au/cambridge-audio-cxc-v2-cd-transport-lunar-grey.html In Australia we can get them for as low as $600aud, that about $380usd. There’s a mk2 out, but I believe it’s the same just cosmetic differences. Cheers George |
will any of these be comparable or better than let’s say a decent CD transport feeding the Chord Qutest? For example a Cambridge CXC, or a used high end player? Depends, what model was the Marantz you used as a transport, there were good and bad CD players from Marantz in that era. The Cambridge CXC is a very good transport for the money, but you can get a "little better" but it will cost at least 3 x the price And let me say, I’ve yet to hear a streamer playing a copy of the same CD version/pressing of an artist, better a "good CD transport", both played through the same dac on my system, just like your finding now. I did it was because there is something missing.Many I know sold their CD collection for streaming, and have gone through the expense of trying to make it sound better. Then dropped just out of audio because they couldn’t go back. Cheers George |
