Need Speaker Opinions please


My room size is 8 FEET HIGH -20 FEET LONG -14 FEET WIDE. is this considered a small medium or large sized listeing room? I am pretty new to this hi fi game so there are alot of things im unsure of, i live in a very small town with no major hi fi shops, this is why i need your thoughts, I want floorstanding full range speakers, my budget is 4000 dollars, i want speakers that output enough bass that i woulden't have to add an external sub. Can u guys give me the names of some speaker that fit this bill, the few allready on my list are, gershman avant gardes,legacy focus "used", and the tannoy d 500 or 700's . I listen to alot of rock music, so, the less neuteral sounding the speaker the better, i have 1000 cd's and most of them are poor recordings. the rest of my gear consists of the mcintosh mc 42 premp, mcintosh mc 352 power amp. can u guys add to my list of speakers i should be sure to check out along the lines of what i am looking for, i could really use some help here, thanks for taking the time to read. Regards Mike korn@idirect.com
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The Avalon Eclipse and Arcus are both GREAT speakers; however, they won't play at ear crushing volumes. I listen to alot of rock, but also jazz, blues, and classical and my Eclipse's are the best I've had in my system BY FAR!! If you have a good high powered amp (preferably tube, though good solid state works also -- McCormack DNA2 works very well), you cannot beat these speakers for $3600 used. I also owned Martin Logan ReQuests (not good for heavy metal, though ok for other rock), Mirage M3Si (pretty good head-banger speaker -- plump bass/midbass and fairly forgiving highs), and Aerial 10T's (great bass, though not as well integrated with the mids and highs as the Eclipse and not as good at soundstaging. Still the 10T's are much better than ML ReQuests or Mirage M3Si). If you really just want to jam most of the time, try one of the older BW 801 models(used under $4000) and mate with a high powered solid state amp. They can rock with the best, though they need alot of juice to come alive.
Korn, You won't go wrong with a pair of Legacy Focus. Recently upgraded to the Focus. The bass in these Focus are something to behold. No need for a sub with these, three 12 inch woofers. Their midrange is world class, bar none. The Focus are also very efficient, around 96db. My wife and I listen to mostly rock, but not exclusively, and these babies kick butt. You can usually find them used for around $2500 - $4000. Check ebay every now and then. That's where I purchased mine. Go to legacy-audio.com and check out their website, if you haven't already. Good luck with your hunt, Skip.
before you do anything go to www.waveform.ca and check out the site and than call the owner John O. and speak with him . I guarentee that you will be elated .
All the speakers mentioned are excellent, and all have their nuances and unique sounds. Only your room + equipment combo, combined "with your ears" will give you the answer. However, there are some excellent speakers out there that don't cost as much as you are willing to spend. I like the psb stratus golds, and the paradigm reference 100's. Both do a very good job with rock music, reasonably efficient, well proven with excellent reputations. Good Luck and enjoy.
Thanks to all those who responded, i went and read some reviews of all the speakers mentioned/ I think i am still between the legacy focus and gershman avant gardes. One of the main reasons being i can listen to them locally. My 2 worries are, 1-Legacy-Some say u have to buy that stredian thingy to get any bass out of them, i don't like the thought of adding that thing to the musical chain. 2-AVANT GARDE rx 20-s, Can these little speakers really be full range? they look like mini monitors on steroids. Oh well, i can't say it's all that fun to be in the market for new speakers, to many damn choices and what not. Thanks for all your help guys/