My 2 cents, from what I can tell we are not reading his post very well, the logans sound great with dvd movie play back and high qulaity recorded cd, which I believe he is talking about hdcd/dvd-a etc but blah on regular cd's. The biggest thing that comes to my mind would be the cd/dvd player he is using in not upto snuff for reg cd play back. My advice to you, since you are on a budget and before forking out big bucks on new speaker cables, would be to borrow a friends standard cd player of good quality and plug it into your system and see what it sound like then. If you don't have a friend visit a locate hifi shop and maybe you can borrow a qulaity cd player for a in-home test drive. If you cont. to have blah sound then I would say then try different cables, and again you maybe able to find a local hi-fi shop that will let you do a in-home review. At the worst you maybe out a few dollars in restock fee's if any, but at least you will know where your money is better spent. Of course once you find out where your system needs help the most, come back to audiogon and buy used especially for speaker cables. Once last thing definitely use the speaker spikes on your logans. I would also recommend using speaker spikes regardless of anything else, you will notice a greater improvement in the lower bass region. Also another little trick with the logans when using the speaker spikes is try to set the rear spike higher than the front two to give a little forward tilt. Try it you may notice a improvement like I did. Good Luck...Dave
Need help - system performance
First I'll explain my system. Have a pair of Martin Logan SL3's (10" woofer with approx 4' esl panel), a pair of Parasound HCA1000A amps at 125 wpc each, a Parasound pld1100 line drive stereo preamp, a Pioneer Elite DV-05 dvd player,IXOS silver series interconnects (1/2 to 1 meter)and 12 gauge fine stranded monster cable MC-1 which has just an outer thick plastic jacket (16' speaker cables).
I have the amps horizontally bi-amped ( 1 amp for lows & 1 amp for highs). The speakers were bought used, are two years old, in mint condition, and were cared for. the amps & preamp were bought new and now have about 15-20 hours on them as well as all cables. DVD/CD player is connected to the direct input on preamp. polarity is correct on all terminations.
This is my sonic situation, when playing my favorite cd's, (you know the ones which have those exceptional quality recordings)the system sounds overall very good and bright. When watching dvd movies, it also sounds very good. When listening to most cd's however it appears to be lacking a little something!!!
It seams if the music be played consists of single or separable instruments, i.e. single guitars, horns or voices, the esl panels sound wonderful, but when its compounded such as rock and roll or the complete frequency spectrum, it seams to lack midrange, clarity, and sound stage. the 10" low end drivers seam to deliver a punchy bottom at times and muddy at others. The lower the volume the worse the condition. As far as listening to music from the tuner, well it sounds like absolute s....t. I have experimented with speaker placement with basically no differences. I have NOT tried to vertical biamp or drive the the amps as monoblocks.
I had a limited budget and spent approx 4K so far. I thought I did all the right research and made the right choices considering my budget. So what happening??
I tend to think the inexpensive speaker cables (bought from circuit city) could be causing the problem but I cant bring myself to spend a $1000.00 to proove it without talking to someone who knows more about it first.
Need intelligent help and recommendations....Steve Rounds
I have the amps horizontally bi-amped ( 1 amp for lows & 1 amp for highs). The speakers were bought used, are two years old, in mint condition, and were cared for. the amps & preamp were bought new and now have about 15-20 hours on them as well as all cables. DVD/CD player is connected to the direct input on preamp. polarity is correct on all terminations.
This is my sonic situation, when playing my favorite cd's, (you know the ones which have those exceptional quality recordings)the system sounds overall very good and bright. When watching dvd movies, it also sounds very good. When listening to most cd's however it appears to be lacking a little something!!!
It seams if the music be played consists of single or separable instruments, i.e. single guitars, horns or voices, the esl panels sound wonderful, but when its compounded such as rock and roll or the complete frequency spectrum, it seams to lack midrange, clarity, and sound stage. the 10" low end drivers seam to deliver a punchy bottom at times and muddy at others. The lower the volume the worse the condition. As far as listening to music from the tuner, well it sounds like absolute s....t. I have experimented with speaker placement with basically no differences. I have NOT tried to vertical biamp or drive the the amps as monoblocks.
I had a limited budget and spent approx 4K so far. I thought I did all the right research and made the right choices considering my budget. So what happening??
I tend to think the inexpensive speaker cables (bought from circuit city) could be causing the problem but I cant bring myself to spend a $1000.00 to proove it without talking to someone who knows more about it first.
Need intelligent help and recommendations....Steve Rounds