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Need advice on good, clean, stable power

This is the chronology of my "bug," i.e. the "need" (or want) to upgrade.

* Yamaha RX-1400 clipped 4 full size and 1 center speakers during an intensive shooting scene of Tears From the Sun. I heard loud popping sounds from some speakers when volume was blasted off.

* I was advised by many A'gon members to get a multi-channel amp. I got the Marantz MM9000 (150wpcX5), which is plugged into a power cleaner with surge protector. Currently, the surge protector is Monster Powerbar 2100, but that will be changed to Monster HTS 3500 tomorrow in hope to get more cleaner power.

* Many A'gon members recommend to bypass the power conditioner and plug the multi-channel amp directly into the wall outlet, preferably a dedicated one.

My question now becomes if I do not want to install a dedicated line right now, would a more feasible alternative option is to use a regulator like the Monster AVS 2000? Monster Cable claims that the AVS 2000 regulator provides continuous 120V power, which in my opinion serves a good purpose for the multi-channel amp.

Sorry for I am not an electrical engineer, but that AVS 2000 sounds like a working solution for me. What do you all think about this route, or do you have some other suggestions in mind. Thanks for all the help with valuable advice.
lej1447

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lej1447 OP
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Thank you Yioryos. It seems easy and very informative. Besides, Yioryos, do most of you hire some body else to do it, or do you DIY? Do most of you run behind the baseboard or inside the wall?

I have to spend time to think about this b/c I have crown moldings on ceiling with speaker bi-wires running behind them already. I have wood floor with baseboard as well. Circuit breaker box is far from the audio gears. I am not sure how to run them along the wall and entry door or patio door. Do they have to run inside conduit?
lej1447 OP
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Warrenh,
Thanks for the response. You are right. The sky is the limit. Unfortunately, my budget is @ $500 right now. I can either spend $500 on a regulator or all on power cables. Currently, the budget is not feasible for both. Since I do not plan to live in this house long, it is why I hesitate to install dedicated lines. As I am not an EE, I suppose that having some electricians to install dedicated lines will exceed my el cheapo budgeto. :>)

One of the reason I like to look into this matter because after watching a movie, the amp is left on while the pre/pro is turned off via remote control, I could hear small humming noise in my speakers. If the amp is turn on for the first time in the day and the pre/pro is not on yet, I don't hear such soft buzzing sound. I have read many threads, and I realize in my specific case, there can be many factors, such as ground loop, amp & pre/pro w/ high noise floors. For pre/pro, I'm waiting for the Fosgate FAP T1+ to be released whenever those guys are ready.

Actually, I'll rephrase my question. Does any A'gon veteran knows any "flu shot" to preven rookie like me from getting the bug? Maybe I'll spend $500 on that to cure it all. :>)
lej1447 OP
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Aroc,
According to the threades, I have read that some A'gon members plugged their surge protectors, such as Monster HTS 700, into the back of power regulators, such as Monster AVS 200. Can this combination provide continuous, consistent, isolated, and clean power, possibly in lieu of isolated line?

I have never been a fan of Monster b/c I think that their products are like Bose. However, when it comes to high end power conditioner, regulator, and surprisingly Monster amplifier, I have read different results. Perhaps, these can be the results of the "halo effect," i.e. people give rave reviews b/c they invest their forturnes in those rigs. So who is better to consult than A'gon members for sound advice. :> )

Sorry to mention Slappy in here, but I have enjoyed reading most of his humours posts, and according to one of his posts, his draw dropped after listening to a 2-channel Monster amp. I like Sean postings too, but I can't modified 1/8th of things that he does to improve his rigs 1000X more for 1/160th of retail costs. Therefore, DYI is not in the picture as I'll settle for good preowned stuffs.

Thank you for all your feedback.
lej1447 OP
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Saki70,
It's all valid. I have the same question as you do, but I have not gotten there yet as I hope the dedeicated lines will do. If not, that may be next. If hospital receptacle is the case, I can always get electricuted at home first, check myself into the hospital, and try to remove those receptacles at night. How many do A'gon members need? :> ) Actually, I have seen some ads for those hospital-grade receptables, but I haven't seen any review or feedback from any audiophiles.
lej1447 OP
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Rodge827,
Thanks for the good tips. It sounds so easy and fun that I want to drop every thing and run straight to HD now. :> )

Actually, let me check the breaker box to see if I have any extra slot and think of a way to conceal the wire for WAF.

Ever run those wire inside the wall and patch them up? If I decide to run between the wall, should I try to run those wires along with those already near the outlet?
lej1447 OP
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Rodge827,
Oh man, I got the pretty PITA picture. :> ) Along the new baseboard, it is.

So you have tested all the toys, such as Panamax AC and Monster AVS, against the dediclated lines. Is the difference substantial? Can you tell that the amp is not restricted and bass is more tight as most have written on A'gon? No more humming problem? What is your listening preference?
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