Naim Audio - Threat or menace?


I spent an hour or so this past weekend at Promusica in Chicago. I had a great time listening to some entry level Naim gear on some Sonus Fabor Cremona's. It was great to listen to some of Ken Christiansen's recordings and talk to him about Naim gear. For those of you who don't know, Ken records for the Naim audio label in addition to selling Naim gear out of Promusica. Ken's recordings are fantastic, using two microphone direct to two track Nagra tape. They really seem to capture the dynamics of the live performance. They sounded fantastic on the Naim gear as well.

I am a newbie to Naim audio but not to hi-fi. I have recently sold off my electronics (BAT, Theta) for financial/logistical resasons and am looking to start a new. I have been reading too much about BAT, Rowland, Musical Fidelity, VAC, Unison and Ayre gear. My preliminary scanning of the online reviews suggests that Naim gear is polarizing (people either love or hate). I haven't however found a good discussion of why.

So anyone out there who has an opinion on Naim gear...house sound, relative value or anything else is welcome to pipe in. If you have had a negative experience with Naim and have an alternative suggestion, feel free to emote.

Statements like component X "blows away" Naim X are generally not useful to me. I know I have to listen to the gear in my house, on my speakers...

The new gear will be powering North Creek Rhythm Revelator Signature speakers. I listen mainly to CD, rock and jazz. My room is acoustically treated but my electricity is not.

Thanks in advance.

-Karl
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I have had a fair amount of Naim gear over the years and it definately has a sound, I moved and sold most of it and now am timkering with a 5i and their 112/150 preamp and amp. after 30 plus yrs of listening to different equipment I find myself drawn to equipment that has a sense of musicality to it, does it make me follow along with the tune and do I respond by nodding or tapping my feet along with the music (just like I do at a good concert). I do NOT listen for higher highs or a wider soundstage or blacks are silent etc....I want the music, I listen for P.r.a.d. what i call Pulse,rythym and dynamics....naim calls it prat, pace rythym and timing.

I also listen for good tonal balance as we are hearing it thru electronics and speakers. That being said as to what I value in a system, I think naim is up there, the equipment does have a pulse to the music and can create a very nice presentation. In short it can rock, I am using it with B$Ws and the tonal balance is very good, open ,full but not bright.

I have heard a fair amount of well reviewed and expensive "hi end gear" that was simply not musical, it just made me kind of stare......so I would describe the overall Naim sound as punchy, with a good sense of drive and openess. It is not the only game in town, I am a big Mcintosh fan and find their gear very musical and involving...along with great looks. I can't say any real negs on naim except i think their marketing where i am is pretty poor, the only dealer around has very little of on display, kind of weird,anyway as always trust your ears.
Naim gear is killer. Its some of the best sounding gear I have heard. Thier CD players are sublime.

They sell cable at resaonable prices. thye take the hype out of it.
Hello,

How much do you want to spend on Naim gear? Should it be brand new or used? The answer to your question depends on what you understand by 'Naim entry level'. People who like Naim usually find Densen sound acceptable. Naimophiles often use the word 'PRAT' (peace, rythm and tempo) to describe Naim sound - something that makes you feel that ie. 'Live' cd recording is really 'live'. Those who don't like Nam sound would say: too aggressive or to much in your face..
For me Naim just catches very well the temporal structure of music or, to be politically correct, catches that structure in a way I like.

best regards
marcin