MYSTERY DYNAVECTOR KARAT 23R


I got this MC a few years ago, NOS, and just mounted it. I can't really identify it.

•   It doesn't have a badge on the side saying "KARAT 23R" like all the pics on Vinyl Engine.
•   It has a small badge on one side, only saying "Dynavector".
•   But "KARAT 23R" was written by hand on the box.
•   VE says it has a Diamond cantilever but it's clearly Ruby-red, and has the triangular cross-section.
•   VE says it has a "super elliptical" stylus, but under a 30X scope it looks VERY thin and has parallel sides. It looks almost identical, at 30X, to the Shure Micro-Ridge on my V15-V. 

Can anyone tell me what I have?  

Also, I got a Dyna 20B Type 2 High-Output MC at the same time, also NOS. Any opinions on it? I've only heard a couple of Hi-Output MCs I like... but haven't tried many. Nor this one yet.
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Also, I got a Dyna 20B Type 2 High-Output MC at the same time, also NOS. Any opinions on it? I’ve only heard a couple of Hi-Output MCs I like... but haven’t tried many. Nor this one yet.

It was before the company changed its name from Ultimo to Dynavector.

Even series 30 was described in the catalog as Ultimo/Dynavector.

Can’t say anything about 20B, but 30A was beautiful headshell intergated design, here is mine in the box, it was "A" with aluminum cantilever. 30B is even better, but also HOMC (1.8mV).

However, the best of the best was LOMC (0.18mV) 30C with Boron cantilever!

If you need a quite from Van Den Hul:

"This Dynavector DV-30 was one of the best Dynavector cartridge they made. I have retipped this cartridge already a long time ago. You can read on the other side my inscriptions about when and what. The cantilever is made of beryllium, an actually not used material anymore. It was at the time a very high respected cartridge..."
- Aalt Jouk Van Den Hul


Series 20 is much cheaper.
Comparing my series 30 (high output MC) to some of the best MM i can say that MM are definitely better, but the design of those Dyna 30 series is lovely, i wish they could sound better. Choosing between HOMC and LOMC - the low output is better. Choosing between nice HOMC and nice MM - the Moving Magnet is better.

My 23RS MR and 17DS mkII are so much better, i believe in evolution of Dynavector MC cartridges.


Vinyl Engine is the worst source to ID specs for vintage cartridges, 50% of the cartridges on their site listed with wrong specs unless there are downloadable manual. 

"R" is for Ruby
"D" is for Diamond 

You will find more in my thread about Dynavector cartridges. 
There are several version of 23 Ruby with Elliptical and LineContact styli, depends on exact model, the best is DV 23RS MR - this one has Micro Reach stylus. 


Also, I got a Dyna 20B Type 2 High-Output MC


Here is your 20B type 2



It has a small badge on one side, only saying "Dynavector".

This is probably your model if there is only Dynavector log on the side.


If you want to check the specs for old models a Japanese library sources are much better to look for it. They know their stuff.

Funny that Dymavector own name for Micro Ridge was actually MICRO REACH!

What microscope do you use to look at the styli ? 


Chakster
BTW I did buy the nos Karat 23R.
Awaiting it's arrival.

Sure, i bought mine in 2018 when i started this dynavector thread.  
My first Dyna was DV-30A, my second was DV-23RS MR SUPER, next one was DV KARAT 17DS and finally KARAT 17D2 last year.