My system is ... well, not ready


Hi Everyone,

A lot of you have been asking me to look at my system, and it’s been an absolute mess in this apartment. However!! I am moving, and I have posted the new living/listening room up in the Systems part of Audiogon. I’m 3 weeks from occupying that space, so please be patient as it will take a while to clutter it up with electronics. :)

Right now the plan is to put the TV in the bay window. It only looks at the neighbors, so I don’t mind giving it up, flanked by GIK acoustics soffit traps and standalone panels, as well as adding curtains in all the windows and doors and ceiling mounted panels.

The room is about 13' by 17' and I'll be taking lots of measurements as I go along. :)

Best,

E
erik_squires

Showing 4 responses by noble100

Hello Erik,

     Congratulations on the new place, it looks like a good sized and inviting room for audio/video playback as well as just an inviting and relaxing space in general.
     As I'm sure you're aware, you have some nice gear and it's now just a matter of positioning everything, including seating, for optimum audio/video performance annd enjoyment.  Here are my initial suggestions: 

1.  I like your idea of locating your very nice LG 55" OLED hdtv along the short wall and at least partially covering the small bay window facing your neighbor.  You already seem to have plenty of natural light in the room and covering that window should do no harm and have some benefits.  For example, it's unlikely you're going to miss the view, it's good spot for creating an unobstructed, centered and optimum view of your video display. 
     It also would increase your privacy, allowing you to guiltlessly enjoy your system in your underwear or beloved Hello Kitty pajamas.  Your reportedly nosy neighbor, Gladyce Kravitz, would be none the wiser and probably unable to further sully your already highly suspect reputation in your new community. 
     My only concern is that, from the photo I viewed, that window doesn't appear to be exactly centered on that relatively short wall. If it's not centered, you could install a set of curtains over the window, or better yet for optimum coolness in room decor and acoustics, you could install a set of curtains or drapes along that entire wall from floor to ceiling in your choice of material.
 
2.  For best and most comfortable video viewing, my opinion is that the hdtv should be centered on that short wall horizontally but positioned vertically with the height of its center at your eye level when seated at a position directly in front of it and at your preferred distance away from it. 
     This topic may require further discussion and thought, since  I don't know what exact equipment rack you plan on using or whether you plan on using a stand or wall mount method for positioning your hdtv.

3.  In regards to speaker positioning for optimizing audio performance at your designated listening seat, my initial thought is to position a speaker on each side of your hdtv, with each positioned in the available space not only horizontally but also in its distance from the front wall and in relation to your designated listening  seat.  
     I realize however, that you built your own speakers and I need to learn more about them, such as dimensions and preferred positioning, as well as whether you plan on using 1 or more subs in your new room.

Later,
 Tim
Hello Erik,

     I believe you're familiar with my thoughts on good in-room bass response.  Your new room is a good size but has a lot of hard surfaces.  Bass sound waves are going to radiate outward in an omnidirectional pattern from your speakers and sub.  They'll continue to reflect off room boundaries (walls, ceiling and floor) until they collide with another, are partially attenuated by bass room treatments or run out of energy.
     All the bass you perceive at your listening seat will have reflected off at least 1 room boundary on the way to your ears and body. Trying to time the arrival times of these bass soundwaves, or absorb them is futile.
     It's a better strategy to not fight the bass physics and psycho acoustics in a room and let them work for you.  I suggest you add a 2nd sub and optimally position each within your room for powerful, dynamic, fast, smooth and detailed bass at your listening seat that avoids room modes and seamlessly integrates with your main speakers.

Best wishes,
Tim
Erik:" Mike's suggestions are quite reasonable. I think his entire room treatment runs around $2,500. About the price of a really decent DAC."

Hello Erik,

     Is Mike's last name from GIK Majors?  If so, he's the same GIK rep who helped me with my room.  I bought and installed all his recommended treatments and the results were excellent. 
     His general philosophy seems to be a balance of absorption and diffusion in the room with a preference for more diffusion along the front and rear walls.  My impression was that he's very knowledgeable and his advice was reliable.

Best wishes,
    Tim
"  This seems like expensive excess to me."

Hello Erik,

     Isn't 'expensive excess' the standard operating procedure in this hobby?  

Enjoy,
 Tim