Enjoyed your last video WC. I think we learn alot from you and about your process on those types of videos.
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@maxwave I think you would need to check with Castello about the effect of using two of their grounding units.
In addition to what @ron17 said, I use the QKore and a CAD GC1 grounding block.
I have found additional benefit of grounding my preamp with both the QKore and CAD, but I am fairly confident Nordost does not recommend using two QKore ground lines, from the same or separate Qkore, to the same component as the effect will not be additive. |
great stuff WC. and nice to ‘meet’ Teeka.
Hopefully you are able to get others in your room to listen and interview candidly. |
@keithr thanks for your reply. i would not be so brazen in your assumptions, particularly in this case. consider it a friendly gut check. I’ll leave it at that. |
curious to hear the behind the scenes and jay’s commentary. i imagine some of those presenters may have realized they were about to be seen by 30,000 viewers |
Very excited to see some clips and commentary from this coming weekend. Enjoy there. |
with all due respect, pls don’t call WC ‘crazy amp dude’ on WBF, essentially throwing him under the bus, and then come here posting seemingly innocuous posts after having posted why it is not surprising he was banned on wbf. |
Congrats Jay. That is a beautiful beast with unparalleled customer service.
Two quick cents, I know you will be getting dozens of cents (and I know you research heavily so ignore if you already know of course!)....
- Plug that beast directly into the wall, not a qbase, power conditioner etc. It thrives from juice, ideally on its own dedicated circuit.
- While there are 4 usb on the back, the best is the dedicated usb driver that you may have ordered (~1500 euro option), the fifth port. Not sure if you have that option.
- Interestingly, given your enjoyment of Odin 1 pcs, I actually prefer an Odin 1 pc versus an Odin 2 pc to the Extreme. fwiw in my system
Fantastic you will be interviewing Emile. He (and his team) are pushing the boundaries of digital playback. And it only promises to get better, as you know as they continue to improve the Extreme ecosystem.
Congrats again. Enjoy
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Thanks for your reply Jay.
As always wishing you the best.
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strange WC. barely any gap between stored files and streaming here. Emile has closed it significantly. I am sure Emile will help. Definitely try ethernet cable directly into Extreme without switch if you haven’t already. Enjoy!
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hmmm. It will be interesting to get Emile’s insights.
Many big league systems including Emile’s own, I believe, express the gap is very close. Of course it helps to have LPSs on modem router switches. etc. Could be network dependent. And as you say, the more resolving the system...
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ah that is outstanding. 24/352.8 will sound incredible played locally on extreme
i downloaded one album at that caliber and it blew me away. wish we could stream at that quality
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I fully believe u. The holy grail would be to make them comparable and to level the modem/router/networking playing field for all users given the current infinite combination of upstream streaming configurations. Taiko has a plan for this, from what i understand. Hundreds of pages about this on other forums. Really looking forward to the interview!
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+1 @pokey
really enjoyable to hear about his expertise. Great job Jay.
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On the YG front. Currently driving Sonja 2.2i w a pair of Simaudio 860a v2s with plenty of reserves into the mid 90 db range. I realize the amps are not inexpensive but together they cost less than half of the speakers, retail. For 2.5x times the cost of my amps I sure hope the M10 would not only drive the Sonjas but significantly outperform them on every dimension.
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Alot of fair points this page. What I like about this thread. good post psnyder
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Hi Dave,
OCD Mike has his own youtube channel - OCD Hi-Fi Guy. Jay appeared on one of his recent videos and they agreed to visit each other's rooms to evaluate/record additional material. Agree, fun watching them both together.
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Glad you were able to do the Roon vs Taiko Audio Software (TAS) comparison with OCD Mike. Been using TAS, still in Beta, for over a year now and have not gone back to Roon. I do miss some of its functionality, but easy sacrifice for me for better SQ.
Very much looking forward to the full rollout/official version from Taiko of XMDS (to be the new software name) in the next month or two. I have faith the SQ will remain superior, perhaps even better, and hopefully has increased functionality as Jay mentioned in the video.
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Congrats Jay. Tremendous accomplishment.
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Keep it going as usual Jay.
Very intrigued about your website/forum.
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Man, I think a few folks have already mentioned - this is a primarily a two channel thread for over 5 year now going on 6. Many folks Ron17 and Zaks to name 2 have been really helpful already.
I absolutely wish you the best on your multi channel journey, but meanwhile Jay is pushing the envelope and expanding his sphere of influence in two channel, system setup and of course his youtube presence. It seems like your inquiry would be best suited for a private consult with Jay should he accept at this point. Or perhaps start new multi channel inquiry on Agon to tap the full knowledge base on this forum that may not follow this particular thread.
We still have some momentum here, albeit waning. We are losing regular contributors seemingly left and right. All the while, there is so much excitement, agitation and change happening whether on this forum, wbf, axpona, munich or future aspiring youtubers, all of which jay is talking about and could tilt the trajectory of future hi-end audio. Let’s keep the conversation going here on Jay’s journey and I still hold out the hope that this long thread doesn’t fizzle out and dry up, but I understand that could be its ultimate future. Ha, in denial. But I appreciate Jay keeping an eye on this thread still and posting. Especially as Mikey can opine for himself on other forums like WBF, whereas Jay cannot, for no reason that has ever been publicly articulated. Forums still matter in our sliver of universe.
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Great presentation on that video. Well clipped and summarized.
Sounds like a speaker capable of shining especially w great supporting cast.
Best bass to date. Wow. That says a lot given what has come before it.
Wonder how much the 3060 and the Extreme etc factor into the evolution.
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Congrats again Jay. High praise considering all that has entered and exited your room. I would be afraid to hear it.
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Happy Birthday Jay!!
Hope you get a chance today to soak in and celebrate your successes, family and the many folks you have touched on this journey you have shared with all of us.
Thank you for that and best of luck going forward achieving your goals.
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ha, so true.
Great video Jay. Agree, especially on cable #5.
Question that came up,... within a given brand's cable line-up, say there are 4 or 5 levels, would you try to move up the line generally in synch (all scs, pcs and ics) over time. Or would you jump to the top sc as soon as possible, then as funds allow, slowly raise the bar on the ics and pcs?
I do like the approach of trying not to let the weak link cable in the system lag too far behind.
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@clearthink
What has been your “contribution” to this thread exactly? As some have already said, Jay has gone to great lengths to ensure transparency since day one. I and others have been learning and entertained by Jay for 5 years. I don’t give a rat’s a$$ that he has taken on a line or two. We are all adults and can make our own decisions.
Your only “contribution” to this thread below amounts to stone throwing, is patently false and by no means represents the opinion of all that follow this thread.
“It is now obvious, apparent, and indisputable that this has become a "sales thread" for Stromtank and what ever other products Jay decides to represent, promote, and sell”
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haha nice work
20,000 posts, nearly 2 million views.
All generated by Jay’s efforts during his ‘free time’
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@ricevs
time to listen to your own words above:
“This channel is entertaining for some.....but for some of us......we are coming back less and less as there is nothing to learn.”
So please, start your own thread for your own followers. I am glad you realize there is nothing left to learn here. So be respectful and exit. I for one have learned absolutely nothing from you (despite your multiple thousand word posts saying the same thing over and over), but I do not berate you, let alone the OP of this thread incessantly with my own ideas, products etc. And obviously this thread has never been and will never be remotely related to DIY. That has been obvious for years. Know when to pack up the shop man.
and @cleeds, what’s your point? jay has not been hiding a thing from the beginning. We continue to be all adults. capable of making our own decisions, believe it or not. no need to disparage
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w all due respect on the cartoon topic
best to quit while ahead.
cat can be an amazing companion
can we have a dog if we add a sub? or power conditioner?
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Totally Jay. One of my dogs is my constant companion when I listen. She tries to push herself into the sweet spot.
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epic shootout perhaps… congrats wc
no doubt gryphon and boulder confident
curious if/how they would describe their ultimate sonic goals similarly/differently at that level of components. of course would love to know their favorite server/speaker/cabling combos but no luck getting that intel for obvious reasons. that’s in part why i tune in here. jay’s evaluations are incredibly valuable in that way
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oh god... not eq. there are dozens and DOZENS of pages already on this thread dominated by a tiny number of contributors - about which, as Jay just stated, he is not interested, again, aside from cables and naturally components.
enjoy your visit to the west coast wc!! perfect weather here in the bay area this weekend. just enough fog
watched a long 90 min utube video of an audio publication visiting CH Precision. Alot of good info but it was one long reel without any headers, separation, outline etc. brutal
I really enjoy how Jay keeps things tight and short on specific topics. I can imagine a number of videos out of this Magico tour. so cool. looking forward to any footage however it is delivered and glad Magico is recognizing your hard work.
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Agree. Most of us are here, and many for over 4 years, for Jay’s content and by extension support for his thread. Jay has always been transparent and upfront.
Gratuitous attempts to undermine his hard work and insinuate false narratives epitomizes disrespect toward the spirit of Jay’s journey and should have no place here.
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are straight up ads allowed like that last post on agon onto established threads? honest question
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@clearthink
your quote: “Why is Jay making a profit from these videos of cause disturbance to you that you would attack others?”
Can you substantiate your claim that Jay is making a profit?
Please enlighten us with any information or, as requested, stop making up sht and walk away.
As it appears the moderators deleted Cleeds similar unsubstantiated post, I assume you are on their radar as well.
Looking forward to the upcoming inside Magico videos. Excellent
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as if he was never here...
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Just finished the first video finally.
Excellent work Jay and kudos to your filming and video ’crew’. Most professionally polished video on your channel to date imho
That video was jammed with great info. Really appreciated Alon’s explanation of the benefits of a sub as well as the diffraction issue and impact on frequency propagation (now worried about the corners in my speakers lol). He clearly has a gift for design but also was impressed by his articulate explanations on the array of more technical subjects and his passion for it which comes through in a charismatic engineer kind of way. As an engineer, that is relatively rare and definitely a compliment. Looking forward to the next drop.
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My apologies for not knowing this.
Who then designs Magico speakers if not Alon and can someone point to information on this? Seems like a bold statement without support?
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fair enough. but why did you delete your post about your respect for magico, consideration of their speakers and discussion/meeting Alon? honestly confused.
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Finally finished interview video. Wealth of information. Alon is a pleasure to listen to and the interview had a nice cadence to it. Great work facilitating and thanks for sharing.
While I have never owned Magico but have a preference for closed ’box’ designs, may need to try out. Or at least make the drive to have a listen.
His comment that it isn’t his place to tell another person how music should sound was particularly interesting to me.
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Yes stay safe and thoughts to all in its wake
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Thought the description of the amps and methods for the shoot out were well done in the intro video .
Separately, my iphone has never sounded better listening to the ‘short’ videos today. lol but serious
One observation is the headroom of the S7s, seems to not have been maxed out yet. I feel this way about the ygs sonja 2.2is, but I am obviously biased
How much better did the M9s sound than the ‘best’ in your room to date Jay? Talk to us. We know u will, no rush of course.
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I also preferred 2 & 3 over 1. But, of course, this is using my airpod pros or whatever through youtube. As perhaps the only user of 860a v2s following/participating on this thread at the moment (monos in my case), I can vouch that there is nothing threadbare in the midrange in my system listening to those same tracks. They sound vastly different (thankfully) than any of the 3 recordings in fact (I understand many of you have better headphone/etc setups to listen to these comps). And, I definitely enjoy comparing head to head through Jay’s recordings and agree with their value.
That all said, I cannot wait to hear the results of the reveal and will fully embrace the results if the 860a is the #1 amp in the order. I am definitely not in the camp of enjoying warmer sound, but I don’t know how many would actually describe themselves in that camp either on this thread. Also, viber, I agree a recording of those first two tracks using the 3060 would be helpful as a baseline/for the record going forward, fwiw.
Thanks again for the excellent shootout Jay.
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Absolutely great video. With detailed commentary that really would inform decision making. Agree w the comment that the 860a v2 gives you a blank sheet of paper and opportunity to draw. I have heard it go through many evolutions here in my system. And they, for me, continue to impress.
thanks again Jay.
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Jay/WC/Jaywc/wcJ/whitecamaros/Best sound east of the Mississippi (sorry OCD Mikey). We all should be congratulating u on the website. That is such a HUGE achievement, the effort and outlay i can’t fathom and the looks are fantastic. One element I was most curious about before choosing mid or hi tier:
- level of access to your extra videos depending on the tiers of subscription. From what I infer “hi” tier has the most but how does that compare to mid vs low?
Congrats again on this next step
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All subscribed and rolling these past few days. Already enjoying the extra video content and worth every penny, to me. Honestly, so many of us enjoy/have enjoyed, and learned from, your thread and content for so long, I feel like there should have been more monetary support along the way. so thanks. and looking fwd to all that is to come.
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Simaudio similarly created a notably better amp w the 860av2 compared to the 860av1 and the 870a. The 870a was retailing at $22k before being replaced by the $20k 860av2. fwiw
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fwiw I am in the mid-tier and am enjoying the extra videos, rankings etc. Everyone has their own budgets, of course, for me it is absolutely worth it as I enjoy Jay's commentary and opinions - and I am getting more of that from the subscription. As like I mentioned before, I really like providing some monetary support for all the work Jay puts in every day. For me, I feel it is the least I can do given the 5+ years of info, knowledge sharing and entertainment on this thread, youtube and now on his website. just imho
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