Musical Fidelity M6-500i vs Kw - 500


Hello guys
I was browsing around the web today and stumbled across
the latest Super Integrated from Musical Fidelity .
This is a 500wpc into 8ohm beast similar in power to the limited edition Kw -500 , Some changes are evident between these models , The older Kw -500 has an external power supply and MM phono stage and single ended inputs only
along with 6112 milspec valves in the pre -amp section.
The Kw -500 was made in England.
The M6 - 500i has line level inputs only with 1 set of balanced inputs no valves appear to be in this unit making it solid state , The power supply of the M6-500 is onboard . The m6 -500i is made in Taiwan.
Has anyone else compared these two units ? Seems they each have advantages depending on your system setup.
I wonder if the new M6-500i would be much better ?
steam3642

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Hi Stanwal
Yes i had Musical fidelity M-250 monoblocks around 4 years ago
i have always found M/F to be a very good piece of kit , they remind me of a up market Rotel in the context of balanced design ( Quality sound , well designed ) . To be honest i have not been in the game of judging a product based on its re-sale value for which i see a lot of the sledging directed at M/F
I only sold the M-250's as i moved to another state and had to down size a lot of my kit. Prior to to that i had a M/F A3cr pre-power 120wpc set , again great sound and lovely
build.
Thanks Amigo
What i find amazing is they can extract the same power with a
on-board power supply when the Kw -500 used an 18kg external power supply, and the M6500i weighs 28kg ! The M6500i has to now be the worlds most powerful 1 box integrated amplifier ? i can't think of hand of another 1 box integrated that rates 500 wpc int 8ohm . When will the matching Phono stage for the M6500i
become available ? .
Yes the Yamaha is a retro looking piece
when i first saw it i thought it was a mint example of a 70s piece , Very good reviews on this integrated . A nice looking unit . 100wpc i think ?
I have decided to purchase a traded in KW - 500 from my local hifi dealer , its in mint unmarked condition . I'm stoked : ))
Have been after one for a long time and they don't show up very often here in Australia , i guess there were only a small amount of the stock imported . Always lusted after one as it was out of my price range when they were released.
Hi Stanwal
Thanks for the input , i believe the Kw - 500 has a mm phonostage only , i have a Rega P3 with Ortofon M2 Black mm cartridge . I may look for a Trivista Dac used at a later
time , have always liked it for sound and looks . I have a Marantz SA11-S1 sacd player at this time so the Trivista Dac would be more for a collectors piece :)). 5703 valves on the Trivista are a bit scarce but you can find them on the web if you look long and hard.
Thanks Stanwal
Thats great info on the mc part of the phonostage section
I don't think i will need a mc at this stage and i have a external phono stage spare that has mc to plug into the
Kw -500 Aux input but will ask my dealer about internal mc , this is a dream amplifier for me
i would help out on weekends at the dealers shop so had quit a bit of experience listening to it when they had a demo there.
Due to my financial position i have never really had the means to go out and just purchase a brand new component of this class . Musical Fidelity have always had great reviews infact a cant think of a bad product based on there sound quality .
Hi Stanwal
I found a review of the Kw -500 in TAS magazine feb/march 2005
where they mention it having both mm/mc phonostage , my unit should arrive in the next couple of days , i will look forward to reading reviews of the M6500i as they become available , as far as i know the M6500i is not a limited edition unit of only 500 pcs . As i mentioned earlier it is not easy to get a
Kw-500 here in Australia , i live in a rural location and
hi-end retailers are on the mainland in Melbourne , i'm in Tasmania the southern island state of Australia.
Hi Nvp
I am using Duntech Viscount large stand mount monitors
I have a Marantz Sa11-s1 sacd player ,Rega P3 with Ortofon
M2 Black cartridge . Next week i intend to buy a Pair of
M.J. Acoustics Pro 50mk2 subs to give the bottom end a boost .
The Kw-500 is just a remarkable amplifier 510wpc including
MM/MC phono-stage and valve pre-amp . Beautiful powerful and transparent , Plus there is the pride of ownership that there are only 500 worldwide. My advice to anyone looking for a superior amplifier to look no further . One last thing please do not be deterred by the availability of the 6112 valve as they are available , In-fact i picked up spares for $9.00 each NOS Jan Philips just last week on e.bay. Cheers.
To also add , As far as second hand products i believe that the limited edition and higher end amps are the ones to look at with M/Fidelity , Kw series amplifiers , the Trivista 300 integrated along with the Trivista Dac 21 , the Nu-Vista Integrated M3 and the 308 series come to mind . Any of these are wonderful bargains on the used market , also these models tend to have been owned by audiophile listwners and have been very well cared for and serviced.
Hi Nvp
Congratulations on your Accuphase purchase , this is one audio company that has some of the finest products available
A friend of mine here is the distributor for Accuphase in Australia. Trading up from an A5 combo to top line Accuphase
is really moving to top level . I did spend some time listening to the A308 100wpc integrated and appreciated the
internal design and layout , no birds nest of wires , kind of reminds me of a Rolls Royce. My experience with M/Fidelity has been that i have not looked to upgrade or change out my amps on a regular basis so there latest new model a year later does not affect me from a trade up point , i also tend to collect my equipment rather than move it on unless i simply cant keep it ( moving interstate forced me to depart with my pair of M250s ), that being said many in the hobby are on a quest to try out as much gear as possible and pay the $ price for it. For me the top flight M/Fidelity
amps are a great option , yes they are more expensive but thats understandable as there are limited numbers available.
Once again congrats on the Accuphase purchase . Cheers.
Hi Mate The Manual says mm only but if you remove the top plate cover and look inside to the rear there is indeed a mm/mc switch , have no reason to explain the non info in the manual.
except that M/F go to lengths to demand you not open the unit as warranty will be void , i believe they would expect you to take it to a technician to perform this simple task
Just a thought : ) enjoy your unit they are indeed wonderful.