Mundorf MKP Audiophiler or ClarityCap ESA ?


hi to all :) , 
i must replace electrolytic cap in my crossover.
for midbudget polypropylene caps i've thought to :

- mundorf mkp audiophiler  
- claritycap ESA

opinions abut them?

thank you
audio4pass

Showing 8 responses by timlub

@erik_squires  Hi Erik,  I consider the MKP to be on par with the better of the cheap solens... Solens ar PA/PB/PPE   before you get the silver or film & foil... I do like the MKP's better than the PA or PB, but ever so slightly prefer the PPE or the Mundorf MKP.... Well, I guess really the application depends... The MKP are a touch more lively, but can get congested easy,  the PPE is a tad more neutral and stage forward.... Just depends on what suits your fancy and the application,  but these 2 caps are very much on par...  Above this level,  I do prefer the Mundorfs over the solens. 
@erik_squires 
Hi Erik,   Just thinking about your last comment.... I can easily see how a cap could do something with one speaker and not another.  Or vice versa,  not do something....  Depending on how a cap reacts to Load, frequency, and its own dielectric absorption rate,  it could certainly react differently from one speaker to another.  So with that,  It also explains why a cap is favorable on one speaker and not another.
@invictus005
Sorry, not trying to offend, but In my experience AudioCap Theta are bright sounding and they lean thin and are not the last word in transparency.
I can only suggest that you do some comparisons. I personally prefer any Clarity or Mundorf to these.... Of course, its only an opinion and based upon my own designs.  
Hi invictus005, 
    Well,  I've been building 35 years and they have not been in my current system,  but again,  its only an opinion, I could be the only one …. and I've use hundreds of different caps,so I could have a shady memory on the caps, as in maybe a different Audiocap model, but I recall them being  yellow with red writing,  I bought a slew of them at the time and ended up trading them off. I recall them as being Theta's. 
I just ran across this guy that has tested a hundred or so different caps extensively.  Not sure how good his ears are, but he goes into a lot of detail about different caps.  I must say that after Invictus being soooo adamant about the Audiocaps that I had definitely wondered if that is what I tested several years ago. If nothing else,  it is an interesting read and a gauge between different caps. Nice comparisons between different Mudorfs and Clarity caps.  I hope this is helpful to someone out there.  Tim 

http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/Cap.html

@invictus005....    Lets just say that we have a difference in opinion for sure.... Yes,  overall, I'd rather have a film & foil over a metalized poly and yes, styrene's are better and yes Teflon's are better yet.... Overall, these are true statements,  but still way off,  Teflon's tend to lean cool sounding, very detailed, but in the wrong situation are not always the best choice.  All film & foils are not created equal, nor are all Poly Propylene caps. To use the statement "Always Superior"... is just not accurate.  Otherwise, we would only have 3 or 4 cap choices,  why would we need more if one was always better? 
Overall,  I really do agree with you,  but my experience is very different than yours and I cannot put absolutes on the statements that you have made. 
@invictus005
You seem to be taking this stuff personal... I is not meant to be. I am not peddling anything, but I have read through his site thoroughly. After you piqued my interest, I went searching to see if it was indeed Audiocaps that I had years ago, that is when I ran across this.
In general, film & foil caps are better than metalized polypropylene caps for sure, but every cap is different....
Are you saying that all film & foils are better than all Metalized poly’s? Are Polystyrenes better? What about Teflon’s? I know for sure that there are exceptions.

You know, one of the better caps that I’ve ever heard is an old Poly carbonate. Man, Just rich, great extension, detailed... we had about 100 of them, I don’t even know their brand was, but I wish that I could lay my hands on some of those today.

Also, You say CSA will not be an upgrade over Solen??? come on, really. although, I have done many Solen PPE bypassed with either a .5mfd or ever a 1.0 mfd K71 old Russian Poly Styrene with excellent results. Overall, I found the opinions on the Humble site fairly close to mine, although, there were a few times that I thought he was really off... but he has definitely taken the time to listen to and document many caps. Not too many people can say the same. I have a lot of respect for the guy just doing it.
I don’t ever want to come off disrespectful to anyone on this site, we are all at a different state of learning. I can only hope that we can all respect each other     AND by the way.  I have also experimented with several machine start up caps.  I've been shocked by a few at how good they sounded... When you need 50 mfd or better,  some of those will surprise you.  Of course,  here it is a complete risk of return on the investment, but I've been pleasantly surprised. 

Ok,  I guess that I'm just wrong about Teflon's leaning cool, so please  set everyone straight and list the 4 caps that we should all use... 
Everyone will be relieved that we no longer need to shop or go through this extensive testing or read from hacks on the internet.  We can simply use your 4 caps.  

I'm sure that you will list excellent caps by the  way and yes, there is sarcasm above that last statement.  Its obvious that you cannot be reasoned with regardless of what many many others have heard.  I'm really glad that this isn't a political forum.