Msb dacs why not alot of postings

Measurements.... hmmmm. Topping China DAC has great measurements as well. Measures perfect on the entire “audible range” spectrum. So, who in the right mind will spend thousands in a Mola Mola Tambaqui DAC, or Rockna, or Holo Audio, when same measurements (read: SQ) can be achieved with a couple of hundred dollars? Asking for a friend 😉

You must have surely tested your Porsche vs. a KIA.... blind! The only proper way to compare something with another 😂

@lalitk : LOL!!

@cal3713 : And that my friend is exactly their goal, what they are trying to accomplish 

Shakira: good DACs for sure. How do they compare vs. MSB? Which MSB DAC have you owned?

Yeah.... just get a cheap China DAC and you will be very happy. It will sound fantastic. As long as you don’t listen to other, better DACs, you will be fine 😂😂

Are you really saying you can afford the Kii 3?? 😂😂😂. In your dreams. 

Hi @mikelavigne : well said. As much as it hurts, I ultimately agree with you. Part of the testicular fortitude I mentioned above, which I admit I lack. Kudos to you.

I also don’t look down my nose at well performing modestly priced gear. Been there, done that. Years ago. I just can’t stand people dismissing better stuff as snake oil, unnecessary expense. Again, I shouldn’t care, but I lack THAT testicular fortitude of not caring. Maybe I’ll get there one day. The key is not hating people like you, but trying hard to be like you. One day.

Peace!

yeah sure. Your $2 DAC. Also, a DAC is not even a part of the audio signal chain 😂😂😂.’

So my question to you is: what are YOU doing on an expensive DAC thread? Why is it relevant to you when you think DACs don’t matter?

Serious question.

Thank you! And yes! Dow at 50,000!

Because they are expensive. At least that’s the perception. It is also very exclusive brand, with extremely strict control on dealers to avoid discounting and territorial restrictions.

Having said this, the Discrete DAC is relatively affordable starting right below $10K. Once you add one of the modules, and the second power supply, you are at around $13,000. This is the DAC I have, with the ProISL ProUSB module combo and the optional second power supply, and I am extremely happy with it. If I ever had the cash to upgrade, it will certainly be the Premier. But unfortunately prices double from one model to the next. Then once you add the upgrade clocks, powerbase, then....

Anyways, if you can find something in Used market (current model that is), grab it! Truly SOTA, and definitely endgame territory for most.

I agree with you. Ignorance is bliss 

There are two empty slots. Modules. That is IF you want to add extra. I did buy one, the ProISL/ ProUSB module combo.

What I copy / pasted above comes standard. I can assure you of that. But you can look for yourself:

https://www.msbtechnology.com/dacs/discrete-dac-options/
I also understand what you are saying too. Very expensive for you, and obviously you will find extra many stuff to make it even more expensive to justify your thought process. Human nature

Not sure where you were looking @hgeifman but the Discrete DAC comes standard with:

Digital Inputs:

1x RCA Coaxial
1x XLR
1x Word-Sync
2x Toslink
2x Advanced isolated input module slots

And ... XLR Analog Outputs (comes standard with them)

It also comes standard with one (outboard) Discrete power supply. The second one is extra if you opt for it to separate the power for the digital and analog boards.

I know. Because I own one

Dow Jones: why every single “contribution” of yours in here is about how everything does NOT matter to sound quality?

Serious question.

Dow Jones 50,000!!! Yeah baby!!

Hi @mikelavigne : I just checked your audio gig under he Systems. It’s by far the best system I have ever seen in here. Congratulations! Well done!

Dow Jones: how can you possibly help people looking for a $55,000 DAC if you have never owned one? Even in your wet dreams

By the way it’s Dow Jones 30. Not 51. I get it you are almost 70 years old next year, but for the sake of clarification.

Crossing fingers the social security trust fund does not run out of money for you. 

Dow Jones: fuck the measurements. The proof is in the listening. Not in the reading stuff in the Internets. Forget about Mola Mola. The most you can afford right now is the China topping DAC. Which is better than the $2 DAC in your top Audiogon contribution. By the way, Mola Mola Tambaqui is like $15,000 MSRP. The second main honcho in ASR has it. But for some reason, he keeps mentioning he bought it because of the looks. Not the SQ. Whatever that means.

And let’s be real. Can you REALLY afford a Tambaqui? I suspect a Topping is as far as you can go.

Got it. A $2 “DAC” is as far as you can go. By I already knew this. So why are you posting on a MSB DAC thread? Helping people? 😂😂

Hey @mikelavigne : you are spot on. I wish I had your testicular fortitude in approaching these Dow Jones types.

MSB Analog is an old, previous model. Not current. For current MSB models visit their website @nitesomething

 Boy oh boy... these guys know exactly how something sounds without even having to lay hands (or eyes) on something. They just know.

Oh, and for everything out there, there is always something cheaper. Better value? Sure. Especially when the more expensive alternative is out of reach.

For some reason, many people get riled up when expensive gear comes up. Big trigger! Can’t you just ignore unaffordable stuff? So tough? I certainly cannot afford a Ferrari but I don’t spend my time in Ferrari boards telling their owners how much better value my Dodge Durango SXT is

Why this caricature of a man is in these threads is beyond my understanding. Go back to the ASR Troll Factory you POS 

Hey @nitewulf : good posts. Thanks for sharing. I mean it.

I used to own the first version of the Holo Spring DAC. It was Level 3, the KTA version (which is Kitsune Tuned Edition, Kitsune being a small company in California). It was certainly a great DAC for the money. It took me spending more than double that money to beat it. I have owned over a dozen DACs over the years.

Your current DAC is Rockna Wavedream, correct?

Oh no..... what did I say Atdavid?? (oops! meant Roberttid, oops again, it's Dannad this time around). I merely asked a question. Is it so hard to share? You seem very well versed on various DACs, must really have tried many, so I am curious as to what you own currently. I am genuinely curious

Hey @dannad --- what is your current DAC? And if you can, please post a description of your current audio chain. Thank you.

Dow Jones: “I would be more than happy to get an education about this DAC. ”

I call your BS right there. This is equivalent to a Taliban asking to be educated on the virtues of Jesus Christ 

From Dow Jones: “equate performance to price.... is nonsense”

This is the most dumbass statement I have ever heard.