MoFi Ultradeck or Technics 1200GR


I’m rather new to vinyl but long time audiophile with good system. 
Looking to purchase a good turntable (within reason), best bang for the buck and have narrowed to these 2 choices. 
Hoping the analog community can give me some direction or advice on new Ultradeck or new 1200GR or something better if I’m missing the boat. 
I’d prob get a Master Tracker cartridge for the Ultra or a _______cartridge for the Technics (or in other words I don’t have a clue) . 
Thanks,
Bill
mr_bill

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If you’re new to analog and willing to get an amazing quality cartridge (which is the most important in reproduction of vinyl media) then you have to be very careful, because for the price of the new cartridges you can get much better transducer from the golder age of analog. When vinyl was the main media and records and turntables were in every home the cartridge manufacturers were much more serious about the quality, they could sell more cartridges than today and for this reason invested in developing some exceptional phono pickups to be the best over the others. It was during the 70s era, i think the best phono pickups were made in the early 80s, then Digital floaded the market and it was bad time for vinyl media. What we have today in our digital era is just a little bit of what it was before in agalog era. So if you want the best bang for the bucks then look for vintage MM cartridges such as Grace, Stanton, Victor, Audio-Technica, Sony, Pioneer ... All specific models have been mentioned many times on this forum. Some of them are hard to find, but well worth the effort if you’re looking for high fidelity that none of the modern MM will give you.
The Technics is flashy looking but it's platter is more likely to ring and the many cavities in it's plinth may resonate and ring also. It has a heavy tonearm which will be limited ti lower compliance cartridges whereas the MoFi arm is light and will handle high compliance cartridges and with the addition of head shell weights all low compliance cartridges. 

@mijostyn I think you have very little information about Technics turntable and most likely you have never owned any of them. Technics tonearm is nowhere near high mass! While the MoFi cartridges for some reason are fairly low compliance 8-10cu (too low for MM), so the MoFi tonearm must be much higher mass than Technics, because Technics is not designed for low compliance cartridges, Technics headshell is lighweight. Technics always was great for MM/MI cartridges with compliance up to 30cu, but not for a low compliance cartridges.

The UD was paired with the MasterTracker.
The 1200GR was paired with the Hana SL.

@displayname You are comparing apples to oranges, you're not comparing turntables, you are comparing cartridges of the different type (MM vs. MC mounted on two different toneamrs) and all your preferences is a cartridge preferences, not a turntable. Also your Hanna is not the best cartridge for Technics tonearm. Such comparison makes no sense. Your test does not prove anything regarding turntables. If you want to compare turntables you must use same tonearm and same cartridge and same phonostage on both of them. With the arms/cartridges that you have the last thing you have to do is to swap them between those two turntables, but you can't. 
@stevehuff Did you use the same cartridge on both turntables ? What was your cartridge then? Are you sure it is not a cartridge/tonearm mismatch? What is a compliance of your cartridge ?