MIT Shotgun Question.


I have shotgun S3 from cdp (rotel 1072)to rotel pre 1069(in bypass mode) to rotel 1075 amp.The setting from cdp to pre is set at high as pre input sensitivity is 100kohm.The setting in shotgun S3 is set at low for pre to amp as amp is 33kohm.
Does anyone using Mit interconnects stay with the recommended settings?Reason I ask is when I set the IC going from pre to amp everything is very clean and crisp but lacks in musicality and is very cold sounding.There is just no smoothness to the music.But if I set the IC to medium from pre to amp the sound stage opens up and though there is a slight loss of clarity everything sounds more rounded.smooth and open.
Could the specs on my amp be wrong?This is not just with music from cdp but with all sources.Tv,dvd,bluray.Any thoughts from MIT users would be appreciated.Thanks.
shaunp

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I called Joe Abrams who I bought the IC's from and who is a MIT Dealer and he said no that it is not recommended to use barrel connectors and chain them together.He told me I needed to put them where they are going to stay and break them in that way.So that is what I am doing.We had a long discussion on the IC's and I feel more relaxed about this whole thing now.
I am running the IC's in from the time I get off work and all night at low volume and am shutting it down when I go to work.So essentially they are getting 14 hours of break in per day.And I am not doing any critical listing and will not till around the 350 recommended break in.
You know I am going on the 2/2 break in period.2 days per MIT and they are 75% broken in.2 weeks fully broken in.Well 75% is absolutely terrible.What I do not understand is why at the setting they should be set they are terrible.But out of the box they sound very good at the wrong setting.Hell my old Monster IC's sound better than these.There comes a point in time where enough is enough as I have been buying and selling cables now for over a month and still am right back where I started from.
When I first started this journey I called the cable company and asked for a recommendation on some IC's in the 150 to 100 dollar range and they suggested a 250 dollar cable and now I am spending in the 300 dollar range per IC and it is just time to let well enough alone.
Maybe my gear is just not high end enough for exotic cables that you plug into the wall or have switch boxes on them.Got to say though that they sure look nice but just do not do my system any justice.Thanks for the reply's.
Ok ..Point well taken.I am going to cancel my selling of these IC's and do a full burn in on them.Only because of what is suggested here.So I have over 200 more hours more to put on them and then will give a critical listen and will post my results.Thanks.
One last thing.Can I use barrel connectors and chain multiple IC's for burn in.Thanks
Well I decided to run the S3's 24.7 for the break in and this morning I was over the 350 mark.So I sat and gave them a good run through with some critical listing.
My first impression was that they had opened up a great deal and that they sounded better than when I had 100 hours on them.But something was still missing.I tried each of the settings from low to medium to high.Joe Abrams had told me it was best to set them at medium if that is where they where sounding the best in my system even though the low setting is where they should be set per the instructions and my amps input sensitivity of 33kohms.He told me the settings are not written in stone so experimentation is best.The pair I have going from the cdp to preamp are set to high per my preamp frequency input of 100kohms and I left that at the correct setting.
Still I was very disappointed with the overall sound.In the last 2 years I have owned and sold amps and receivers as they where not producing what I wanted.I first started with receivers and moved to separates.I have gone through Sony,Yamaha,Rotel and Pioneer on the receiver end.I have gone through only Rotel preamps ,and amps in the separates.All with my B&W speakers(683's)I remember a few years ago when I ran my home built speakers and a lowly Sony receiver and was so happy back then.This all has a point believe it or not.Anyway so I decided to back track to when I first got my B&W's and all the other components.What was I doing that made my home built speakers and receiver sound so good?What had I added since those days?I have added a dedicated 20amp circuit for the amp.I added a APC H15 Power Conditioner.The APC was bought at the same time as the B&W's and at the start of my higher end journey.Could it be the APC that cdp and preamp and everything else but the amp is plugged into?I have another dedicated 20amp circuit that has nothing plugged into it so I decided to remove the cdp and preamp from the APC and go straight to the wall socket.I was not expecting much and surely not what I was about to hear.
I let the amp and preamp and cdp warm up for a half hour before I sat back down and when I started the first cd I was blown away.Never in the last 2 years has anything I had sounded so good.My speakers melted away and left me in a musical paradise.I have never been able to get all my sources to sound good and now bluray,hd tv all are exceptional.
Now my only thought is part of that the MIT IC's?I could not get any IC to really sound good before.But at this point in time it is a non issue as it is just sooooo good right now that MIT S3's are here to stay.And will be getting one for my center channel tomorrow.
So in the end my APC unit has been limiting and coloring my sound all along.I am so jazzed that after 2 years I can settle down and quit fussing and enjoy what I have....at least until the next time.
I agree,unless running MIT speaker cables your limiting your system.

Why would the MIT speaker cables limit my system?As of now I am using some overly priced thx Monster cables with the white jackets.For now my next upgrade is to replace my wall sockets with some sort of surge protection at the outlet.I talked to Joe today and he recommended some MIT Super something or other wall sockets.I looked at some on the MIT site but did not see anything mentioned about surge protection, only power filtering which I do not want.As of now my preamp and cdp are direct to wall with no protection.I live in the desert and even though have never had a power problem I have noticed tha APC limiting the power sometimes as when it is windy it will rise to around 130 volts.Do not know if that is a problem but want to be safe.
The in-wall Z stabilizer super outlet conditions and has surge protection...you will experience better sound and picture wt surge protection. Missioncoonery is saying that unless you are using MIT speaker cables, you are limiting your system.

Ahhh...got it.Now if I get the super Z is it going to limit my power and color the sound?Thanks.