Miracles in Audio, by luck, by good choices,by design or by tweaking...
said the tape and tape head are not mechanically coupled. A rock on a cable Or router box are mechanically coupled, not electrically coupledThe fact that a rock is put near a router cannot be described by the expression"mechanically coupled" for explaining the effect in S.Q. My point is simply that all parts ,mechanical electrical or acoustical are all united to gives the required S.Q. I cannot explain why but this is my living experience.... |
"Golden Plates" UPDATE : I add 4 all along my electrical line: one under the Hard drive bank which have only a little one, 2 on the router of the house(total of 3 now), and finally another bigger one on the electrical main panel of the house(which has many of them) and the results is easy to hear: more refined bass and better timbre and bigger imaging ...I was so enthralled with my Bell of Bells and my other little grid of bells(on speakers, on the walls and on my computer screen) that I had forgot the impactful "golden plates".... :) What a journey! Improvement for peanuts and each month passing the acquired experience that made me think that what is very illusory in Audio experience are the different electronic components upgrading effects versus the underestimated and more powerful effects created by the controls of the 3 embeddings... Today it was the electrical field acted upon with my "golden plates", yesterday it was the little cones or bells + Herkimer diamonds( on 20% of them)... The only embedding I had not modified in the last 2 years is the mechanical resonance dimensions... With my heavy load on speakers +my sorbothane +granite+quartz+bamboo+cork plates... That is already so good I dont add anything more... In the years to come I will add a bed of quartz sand....But for now the heavy organ sound dont even give me any sensation at all with my finger on the desk...Not perfect at all, but good indeed... My dear fellows think before buying anything.....Thinks twice.... |
If I was reading my own thread, like any stranger, for the first times, I will think that the OP of this thread is, if not crazy, certainly right... But how to decide? I will think that I must try by myself some of these controls tweaks about these 3 embeddings... But I speak about myself, a man at the same time gullible, naïve, and sceptic and investigative....Yes I am a paradoxal man, but wait, in the first time it is better to believe, and in the second time, it is better to investigate, then creating some alternative dynamic movement ...Gullible persons only and sceptics only, are all at the end of their journey STATIC dogmatic minds …. Believing and doubting at the same times is acting and experimenting, and is it not also real thinking ? « Why do you think we have 2 cerebral hemispheres? - One for believing and one for doubting i guess? - Right, but know that you are neither one of them yourself... » -Groucho Marx speaking with himself. « I think in spite of my brain...» Groucho Marx |
UPDATE: The grids of bells (Alaskan cones) I added 2 new group of 5 bells on walls parallell and perpendicular to the speakers, one group horizontally disposed at the level of my ears the other group vertically... They work like some beacons on the flowing waves resulting from the interaction of the direct sound from the speakers and the refracted sound coming from the walls, and give to the ears some fixed points to make easier his Fourier analysis of the sound …. Better imaging at near listening position and at the regular one.... Music go toward the top S.Q. for peanuts.... :) And people everywhere discuss secondary questions, giving no thoughts to the fundamental one : the 3 embeddings, especially the acoustical one..... That is life! |
UPDATE: 6 new "golden plates" on the computer side. What can I say? I added 6 new "golden plates" (shungite+copper tape) 5mm stick, 10centimeters square, I glued them on a cardboard plate and I put the shungite side against the computer... The clarity increase again an another notch then the imaging also.... If I was a business man I would sell that like an audiophile product....But It is free idea coming from a fool, cheap cost... :) I will not say more, I only talk to myself, but it is not so bad if I think about that.... :) |
second UPDATE about the 6 " golden plates" near my computer: The silky smooth velvety impressions around the timbre is addictive...In my 2 positions, nearfield or regular, all is so different and so marvellous I dont know where to seat... :) I order the last 12 shungite plates from my Russian provider....It was the last set for 50 Us dollars..... Peanuts for the results....And I had some other locations to treat more drastically.... My best to all those " ears" here.... |
second UPDATE about the "grids of bells" (Alaskan line cones) I added my last 5 cones to the horizontal line of cones near the ceiling front wall(relative to my sitting position) and I added another 5 to the vertical line on the wall near one of my speakers... Amazing increase in details... I will repeat myself for how they worked: «They work like some beacons on the flowing waves resulting from the interaction of the direct sound from the speakers and the refracted sound coming from the walls, and give to the ears some fixed points to make easier his Fourier analysis of the sound ….» Nothing more needed to be said.... I wait for my last 30 cones from China now slightly bigger.... Viva Hi-Fi for the poor audiophile..... :) |
Another UPDATE about the "grids of bells" When your room treatment and other embeddings are rightfully controlled, the reactivity and feed back of any change is very great indeed... After 2 days of listening after all my last modifications, I was not totally satisfied, I add to 2 of the 10 new bells 2 tiny Herkimer diamonds,3 mm wide, guess what? The effect was incredible and the sound quality , timbre and imaging, was now perfect to my ears.... Think about that mystery: 2 tiny pieces of H.D. of 3 millimeters inserted in 5 millimeters cones bells, and it was like I upgrade my amplifier or if I bought another dac….The reason is because my room is almost near optimal sound rendition and any little modification can degrade or improve the sound greatly.... In a regular room 2 cones on a wall with or without H.D. will not be perceived at all or very little....Dont forget that if you want to emulate my controls methods.... This is a journey not a "one action solve all " methods.... The 3 embeddings controls are interlinked totally.... Any small change in one, at the end gives a spectacular effect…. |
10 new brass cap cone 3/8 inch+ red tourmaline in the center, for my grids of bells Wow! Nothing is perfect even when you think it was! I now have 3 size of bells cones with some Herkimer diamonds in some...The 3 size compensate well one with another ... The bigger last 10 gives me a better timbre and a more wide soundstage without decreasing the dynamic nor the imaging.... Nirvana is free, we must only pay attention..... :) https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00MP2UJ48/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
My dear friends, trying to improve the clarity, I just create a new powerful tweak "the crystal cannon".... I take a big brass cone cap 3/8 inch and glued in it a stick of lemurian quartz 1 1/2 inch... I add these 4 to the horizontal "grid of bells cones" and to the vertical one, 2 "crystals cannons" on each grids... Dynamic increase and clarity.... Heaven is with me indeed....I will add photos probably tomorrow in my "virtual system" page.... :) If you think that I am a fool, think about that: who is fool, the one who bought a 10,000 dollars dac or amplifier, or me, with a few bucks tweak that has the impactful power of an upgrade? I will leave the answer with you..... I really feel that I can now solve the acoustical problem of my room using many convergent active solutions and not only passive materials on the walls or in the corners.... My best.... |
UPDATE about the "Crystal Cannons" After 2 hours without interruption of the Jordi Savall viol, playing the marvellous Sainte Colombe music, I am amazed by all the details and dynamic that the C.C. (crystals cannons) added to the acoustical field of the room.... All solutions to acoustic controls are way more simple than people think.... Dare to experiment and have fun.... No need for any money.... |
It is amazing how good a very well designed dac is for retrieving and translating details to a good amplifier, and how good is a good one for transmiting that information to the speakers...How good, good speakers are is also surprizing.... I can say that because in my own experience , my dac and amplifier and speakers has amazed me totally in the last weeks... Why? Because when I bought them, these 3 actual components few years ago, I was not so flabbergasted by them like today....The reason is simple, without the controls of their 3 embeddings these 3 E.C. worked way under their own potentials.... All these last acoustical active tweaks controls propelled them to an another level.... The acoustician know much more about Hi-Fi S.Q. than the electronical engineer indeed....This is my motto..... Your ears then know much more than a measuring device.... But only a fool will put aside the experience of the electronic engineer for sure…. But in life there exist priorities....That is my point.... Acoustics of the room is the most important feature of an audio system, especially not only the passive controlling ways, but mostly the much less known active controlling ways.... |
You dont know how fantastic your audio system really is... I was like that.... It takes me the last 2 years to know that... Most will read that like if was boasting about my system.... Not at all... My system is low or mid-fi at most, very well chosen but not High End ... I dont want to boast about brand names, for me it is illusory, there exist many, many good brand, with their weaker points and stronger one... The question is: HOW DO YOU HAVE EMBEDDED IT ? Think about that, especially newcomers, not brainwashed by the upgrading motto..... I am really happy....I wish the same for all..... :) |
UPDATE: 10 new brass cap cone 3/8 inch distributed in horizontal and a vertical grid of bells cones... I replace all tourmaline stones center with Herkimer diamonds... They are more powerful for clarity.... The red tourmaline push "heavy meat around the bones", but the H.D. gives me more clarity in the higher spectrum... each stones can be used with success relatively to your room and particular audio system.... In general Herkimer diamond even the micro and nano one are very powerful stones.... The most powerful with the shungite and very complementary... |
In the last week I refined the "grid of cones bells" with the "crystal cannons" idea and also by adding Herkimer diamonds of different size to the red tourmaline stones at the center of the big brass cones 3/8 inch that are horizontally located in front of me at my right on the wall and near the ceiling, and also vertically near the right speakers on the wall … These "grid of cones bells" work like some beacons on the flowing waves resulting from the interaction of the direct sound from the speakers and the refracted sound coming from the walls, and give to the ears some fixed points to make easier his Fourier analysis of the sound … The reader must understand that the best improvement come with experiments and listening….The big idea dont come in one fell swoop perfect and without defect....All my ideas are complementing one another and compensating one another.... The end result for example tonight is out of this world in clarity compared to the past days or months... I never listen to a better sound in near listening and in a regular listening position on all counts: bass, higher clear frequencies, details, dynamic, soundstage more wide, imaging more precise.... These improvements are not free and comme with my cumulating experience for example with the properties of the different materials I use... This evening I also create a new idea , a very simple one....I will speak about it later.... Because it is powerful, easy to made, but almost all people here must think that I am crazy.... And this is crazier.... Silence in this thread is a testimony for the total ignorance of their own potential and lack of confidence of people in their own listening power.... I know, I was like that 7 years ago, dreaming to buy costly gear to create Hi-Fi experience, trusting all this marketing lines about audio... Lack of money luckily makes me more creative and at the end not only successful but more happy...I dream sometimes again to buy the costly Berning ZOTL, but like someone who already owns the best car in America dream sometimes to buy a Ferrari....It is no more a frustration, only a curiosity.... :) |
My last experiment is a success but I cannot understand why... :) Sometimes the things I invent makes sense, sometimes not, but never mind if they work.... I linked with 2 thin copper band tape (2 feet long) all 5 big cones3/8 inch in my 2 main grids of cone bells , the one vertically and the one horizontally... Result: an imaging and a clarity way better....Spectacular and absolutely surprizing...I will take a photo in few days and put it in my"virtual system" page This cost me nothing and gives me, in nearfield and regular position, an imaging better than what I ever experienced in the past days ... Hi-Fi cost nothing.....Only listening and acoustical imagination and creativity.... Trust your ears not the ads.... And if your amplifier is good already, trust me, he's better than anything you ever thought of him.... Same about your dac…. Embed it and dont buy anything before that.... |
UPDATE about the "Connected cones bells grids" This is my latest homemade tweaks and I must say very amazing... How do we define "naturalness" in S.Q. ? Naturalness is elusive like many audio sensation, but anyway a real sensation...This sensation gives you the final taste, the taste of the real presence, this taste is a drug with no possible detoxification... This is the ultimate S.Q..... This is an "elusive" quality, because you can think that you have it without having it really in the flesh...The sign and symptom of his actuality is some connection with the music that cannot be severed....The feeling that it cannot be better.... But is it the end? Geoffkait says that we are most of the times always in some base camp all along the road and not on the apex of the mountain....At first I was thinking that he was mocking me, but I now think that it was only clue... :) How in the world connecting with 2 bands of 2 feet copper tape, 2 grids of 5 cones bells, can gives me that quality more than any other controls tweaks? I dont know, perhaps this modification come after a number of other cumulative changes and it reach a threshold...( for example the 7 "golden plates" I added around my computer, one week ago, were a big step but not enough to gives me on their own that "naturalness") Trust your ears and listen, go with them, because no others will transform you for the better except those 2 friends and magical mentors …. |
UPDATE: "doubly connected cone bells grids" I added a copper tape ribbon to the first one linking the 5 crystals cannon in each grid the horizontal and the vertical one...More realism and more presence and more details, more dynamic...I will post a new photo in the next day in my "virtual system" page... After the "golden plates", the modified Schumann generators, the connected crystals cannons, the cones bells grids, the bells of bells, the stones grid, the multiple resonators, the Helmholtz bottles, my delirium touch the end of my journey I think.... How far can we go with a better sound without changing an electronic component? I never imagine that my dac, amp, and speakers would sound so good ever in my life when I bought them....I was dreaming to upgrade them few weeks after buying them because all forums and thread says the same thing like a chorus, the costly it gets the better it is.... This is more than false, it is a myth created by advertising and ignorance about the three embeddings necessities in any audio serious endeavour....For sure my system does not sound like a million bucks system, but for the price Boy! not so far behind, and way more closer than you think.... And I know that my photos look like trash..... :) My goal is in my own hands and I touch it.... Homemade low cost methods are all that is necessary to afford Hi-Fi.... My best to all.... |
UPDATE: "connected cones bells grids" The increased details made me connecting them all with the copper tape....The clarity increase.... No explanation comes to my mind.... A sound wave affected by connected brass cones? Why? Never mind physics !.....Viva music! .... But if someone has the beginning of an idea he is welcome …. :) I will repeat the only idea I have and this is a metaphor : These connected "grids of cones bells" work like some beacons on the flowing waves resulting from the interaction of the direct sound from the speakers and the refracted sound coming from the walls, and give to the ears some set of fixed points to make easier his Fourier analysis of the sound … One thing is evident: All instruments are way more distinctive in the Bach brandebourgeois concertos....And it is not my first listening session with this file to say the least.... |
An important note about my last experiments: The reader must remember that my audio system is very sensible to changes because it is already heavily and rightfully embedded to some degree... Then the audible effects I described will vary from one audio system to another.... But the reader must begins by the simplest embeddings: the mechanical resonance controls.... After that he can try the electrical house controls embeddings step by step and the acoustical one.... The acoustical embeddings is the more complex for me, because there is a passive way, the classical way to use materials to absorb or reflect the sound, but the active way are more powerful( Helmholtz bottles, modified Schumann Generators, various resonators, bell of bells, grid of connected bell cones of different size, stones and crystals) and also necessary to transform ANY room....For the electrical embeddings controls I use mostly stones and crystals and my 30 marvellous "golden plate" around all electrical utility, be it a router, a wall plug, or a conditioner, the computer, the phone box, the electrical panels etc.... |
UPDATE: "connected cones bells grids" I added my computer screen with his 2 grids of cones bells on each side to the connected series of grids in my room.... Same upgrading clarity effect.... WOW ! The mystery is astonishing indeed... Why thin copper tape around cones bells can produce this powerful clarification of the imaging in the first place? Particularly spectacular in nearfield listening but also in regular position... This event is a surprize at the moment I was thinking that my audio experiments journey was ending..... :) Dear reader remember this: the acoustical embeddings is the most important fact in audio.....Most of us dont know that... The proof is simple.... For example, I know very well that some cables sound very different with one another....But the difference is minute compared to any changing controls in the 3 embeddings.... I then conclude with all these discussions about cables that people dont know much in Audio improvement at all because their fixation in favor or against changing cables is an indication of their own limitations....The rightful embeddings exceed any changes of cables, or often even of gear....And the acoustical embeddings is so powerful that it is only on par with the exchange of a low piece of gear to a very refine one....Nothing less.... |
Updates: "cones bells connected grids"... The last tweak is the connection with thin copper tape of the 2 series of 9 cones bells (9 with 3 Herkimer diamond inside) each side of my computer screen that is exactly between my speakers (2 inches in front of them)...The connection make the cones bells more powerful in clarity S.Q. in regular distance and in nearfield more immersive.... The same effects were audible with the 11 vertical connected cone bells horizontally aligned on the wall a few feets over my left speakers, and with the 13 connected cones bells vertically aligned a few inches near the right speaker on the wall adjacent....Herkimer diamond inside 1/3 of them and in some case red tourmaline under the H.D. I had another grids at my right on the shelves of some furniture and on the wall behind me.... But these grids instantiate a lesser audible effects.... This cones bells connected grids on par with the 10 Schumann generator and with the 20 Helmholtz bottles to ACTIVELY modify the acoustics and even better than my 50 cheap resonators...But remember that any upgrading effects of my controls tweaks are cumulative....If someone try something in a nude dead room the effect can be less powerful, because ALL my audio grid is now very able to communicate any slight modification... My 3 embeddings were already advanced in modification controls already in my room before the connected cones bells grids...But the connected cones bells are so astonishing I must use superlatives.... Most people think that for changing acoustic we must buy costly PASSIVE materials.... This is half truth, especially in small non- symmetrical room.... In this kind of room ACTIVE controls methods are mandatory....Buy nothing, think before, and use low cost materials and first and foremost your EARS.....Your ears will teach you, trust them, nobody else.... |
Adding new stones Over the Sansui AU 7700 Amplifier transformer I already have many stones: tourmaline pieces, amethysts, agate... I put a very little "golden plate" (because a bigger one can kill the sound then beware) and with it I added 150 micro Herkimer diamonds.... That gives me more depth in the imaging and a better natural timbre.... :) Herkimer diamonds and shungite in the "golden plate" are the most useful stones for audio, over tourmaline, agate, quartz, and all others I used too... |
Where Kambaba jasper can makes things sometimes better.... I put a 200 gram sphere on top of my Sansui with the 150 micro H.D. and the very small "golden plate"... Before I tried an agate that gives me more meat in the sound, but I want more details then I replace agate with a Black tourmaline big chunk with success...After a while I tried my Jasper Kambaba sphere and Bang! the imaging and bass frequencies were better with keeping details and air around the sound given to me by the H.D.... This an example of experimental listening ending in a success.... :) Cost: peanuts.... Goal: tweaking the sound toward the superior potential level...... Results: more beautiful music with great fun experimenting with the master’s ears.... :) Nota Bene: Kambaba jasper is known by me for the last 5 years, this stone improve the frequencies perception like tourmaline for example but with a potent working on the imaging perception more than on the timbre perception only, like tourmaline.... Some people reading my many posts here can think that I go forward and backward alternatively with the sound quality without knowing too much what I do...This will be wrong, I know what I do after all those years of experiments and past some experiments where some trade-off are mandatory, the general trend is a cumulative positive progression in S.Q. for at least the last 2 years in a very audible way, each stones complementing some other one....I know the working of 20 stones at least and play with them very well in various way toward the optimal way.... Then this last experiment help me to finetune my amplifier, already tweaked with stones.....This was a success....These methods are so efficient and subtle then I learn and discover each week.....Finetuning is a process not a single experiment.... |
Most of the times people dont go in a finetuning process, and dont know how in the first place... They upgrade after a long or short time moving the problem around half the time.... Upgrading is sometimes for the better for sure but when someone dont know how to optimize the S.Q. by his own means, often they forget about the sound and lives with the music and it is ok for sure.... But it is way more fun to improve, month after months, and at the end music comes from our own hands more than from a purchase that is often as illusory than it was good at first listen....So good they are any electronic component need to be rightfully embedded and no designer will like to say frankly to his customer : " you know my product is perfect but to listen to his optimal quality you must learn now how to embed it in your house"....Who would buy it thousand dollars, only to know that right out of the box the product is not at his better level of working order ? :) The other reason is after all the electronic designer of an amplifier or a dac or of the speakers are not acoustician, physicist or electrician, and dont live in your particular house and room....They are interested in designing not in the embedding so much....Design is an idealized standardization process, acoustic of someone room is more an individualized subtle embedding process, not reducible to standardization.... After the acoustic the same is true for the particular electrical grid of your house and for the general mechanical resonance controls problem...Any electronic component vibrate and affect the other E.C. and all the audio system is affected by the vibrations in his neighborhood... These are the 3 embeddings problems to solve.....The more important fact in audio.... It is simple but nobody on any forums explained it clearly to me and I read thousand of hours to understand.....I want to be clear myself and dissipate the upgrading myths..... For sure many reviewers speak about some products dedicated to one of these 3 embeddings times to times...They called that a tweak....But this is a long way to understand the 3 embeddings problems, in fact no one can solve that problem with a tweak or even with a few tweaks....We must be systematic....No reviewers would be invited to speak about something at all if they dared to say the truth: the embeddings of your audio system are way more impactful in your experience of Hi-Fi than the upgrading purchase of only one electronic component in general most of the times (speakers, amp or dac).... This is the upgrading myth.... :) |
UPDATE Kambaba jasper Wow! I am lucky to had bought 4 spheres at a times where they were much cheaper.... Their effect is stronger in my controlled embedded audio system especially on top of my Sansui amplifier....This kind of jasper increase the imaging from my first use of them but now more audibly, i dont know why at all.... :) i will give to you an example of use, the golden plate will give more meat to the sound but will slightly compress it, add kambaba jasper and you will keep the meat but you will erase the compression and reinforce the imaging....It is an example of complementary use of stones.... At the end with many kind of stones you keep only the positive.... This is really like an upgrade.... And better because of the low cost and sometimes it is more powerful than an upgrade because you can work all aspect of sound....... I will never use a tube amplifier anymore.... when i hhave one i try plenty of tubes, with subtle changing colors in sound each time but that was very small and limited effects compared to my stones tweaking without speaking even of the controls of the 3 embeddings.... Except i dreamed to buy the tube ZOTL Berning amplifier but it is another story..... |
I think any pro skeptic who talks placebo effect does not know what he talks about....At the most basic fundamental level of perception there is placebo effect in play...Without that how human can transform sensation in an individualised and personal perception be it of our own internal organs and body or any object we are linked to by intimate sensation...The line between objectivity and subjectivity is fractal like and created by collective consensus figuration and configuration... I apologize for my foolish rant... :) |
Ok to tease my potential story tellers of miracles, i will describe another one : Buy a Schuman Generator and put under it a tile of shungite...You will hear miracles from your speakers...Even from your headphones... 20 bucks for a tile from Russia... 20 bucks for a Chinese low cost Schuman Generator. (but scrap the chinese power supply because it is a bad one and replace it with a 20 bucks power supply) Total cost for a miracle 60 bucks |
It seems that except for " the man for the future" I am the only audiophile living with miracles who tell stories... : ) Ok another one for those who live without miracles... Buy 1 shungite tile (250 gram), and 1 ataxite stone(meteorite 200 gram) put the ataxite on top of the shungite tile and put that on top of the principal electrical central panel of the house... the simple adjunction of these 2 stones will have the impact of a costly upgrade at a low price, that will clean some noise on the grid... Call that a miracle in audio for the day.... |
Interesting whostolethebatmobile... Have you compare these crystals natural versus artificial? In what sense are they more powerful? And where do you place them, how do you use them? Thanks very much for your time and interest... |
One thing that surprize me was the cost of the synthetic stones,higher than the natural one same quantity, for example tourmaline in this list: http://https//www.gemsngems.com/product-category/rough-stones/lab-created-rough/ I am very curious to compare the difference between natural and synthetic, the problem is the cost; and how can the synthetic be better or even equal to the natural? And be it on the same level as the natural kind, if the synthetic are costlier than it is less interesting, except if they are better of course? Perhaps the crystalline purest structure without impurities is the key? What do you think? |
I have tried many many kind of crystals and stones,way beyond the point of beginners self fulfilling prophecy because the effects always were unexpected and very powerful in many cases in the positive or negative directions...And NO crystals act the same in an audio grid, except if you pack them together....I dont pack them together mixed...But it is sometimes very interesting to apply one with another because they mutually paired well and compensate each other...For example ataxite on top of the shungite for my electrical central panel... And for example Turquoise does not act very well in an audio grid compared to tourmaline, amethyst,agathe, pink quartz for example, turquoise affect negatively most of the time except perhaps far from the gear and on top of the central electrical panel like aquarium peebles, because this is for audio more subtle application very near the gear not so good stones at all... We can use it like I used them (aquarium cheap peebles) in quantity for my exterior electrical line at cheap cost... |
whostolethebatmobile Thank you from my heart for your kindness...I have no words... Thanks |
