Miracles in Audio, by luck, by good choices,by design or by tweaking...

But I  must gives you that you always makes me smile.... Thanks and enjoy the day....My best.... :)

Update about liliputian Herkimer diamonds :

I added one on all my 8 Schumann generators in the audio room, the more I added the more the sound increase in clarity and softness without any lost on any count... I added now 3 liliputians on the black Hong-kong Ufeel costlier S.G. that sit on top of my computer screen, between the 2 speakers, and wow...

Never the Grumiaux violin in Bach concertos has been so atmospherical and detailed, the imaging more spacious and the orchestra more present... I listen to this cd for 30 years...I think I know it...

If you want to know what is a good sound, it is difficult to convey that in words even with the best metaphor, but if you cannot stop listen after hours and hours, that is the beginning of a good sound... :)

I will repeat myself, how a .175 gram stones can be more powerful than all other stones, enhancing them all ?
It is only a quartz variety that look like quartz, even if it is called Herkimer diamond... Miracles indeed for 2 dollars all in all... :)


It is not first with money that you can afford a good sound it is with attentive ears and experiments....Nothing else... :)


"What is sound? A fractal pattern... What is a crystal? A fractal pattern.. What is an electromagnetic field? A fractal pattern... Then what are your helicoidal ears? " - Groucho Marx


" What is a fractal pattern? An information unfolding and self-structuring itself at all scales" Groucho Marx

third update on liliputian H.D.

I just put a photo in my "virtual system" section of a liliputian H.D. on top of Tourmaline+"Golden" thin plate with a cabled S.G. under that... :)

Update about my "singing" resonators and reflectors...

The configuration of my audio room is not a perfect square...Furniture occupy it irregularly, and one of the speaker is enclosed against a wall for half his surface...A very bad position and remember that all my electronical components are on my desk near a computer...The controls of vibrations-resonance was fundamental...The cleaning of the electrical noise also...It is the reason why I discover by myself the 3 embeddings of an audio system is the ONLY key that opens the door of audiophile experience...Not the price paid for electronic components like most believes in... 

How to create an imaging that is good and entertaining and immersive for that room and for 2 dissymmetrically placed speakers, in my 2 possible listening positions, in nearfield and in a regular one ?

How to reinforce the bass response without alterating the other parts of the spectrum ?

By a selective placement, locations, height, orientation, of my 10 sets of 5 "singing resonators and reflectors ( metal bucket+ one stone in the center with a copper tape crossing the aperture of each one). Low cost and flexibility of orientation make be able to project the sound in the way I want...

I use many other acoustical methods: Schumann generators, Helmholtz resonator, varied materials for absorption on the walls and ceiling....All low cost (S.G.) if not homemade...But without the "singing reflectors I would not be able a so flexible orientation of the sound flows in the room...


Is it perfect? No... Is it very good? Yes...


Cost of the 50 metal buckets 100 dollars... Try that with official acoustical materials and calculate the cost... Brass would cost me thousand of dollars and would probably be better tough... :)


My audio room is astonishingly good... My ears never waited for engineers to say so.... :)

" Unlike my wife my ears speak and listen to each other at the same times"- Groucho Marx

Hey magister!
Wanted to report that I just took my first dive into the placebo pool with some very “quieting” hunks of Shungite
This stuff is very weird. Kind of tingly when I hold several pieces in my hands.
Is this stuff completely benign for humans?
It sure does deepen the black levels on both audio and video.

First "placebos" is not an explanation for increase positive effects step by step experiments resulting in many positive S.Q. for 2 years... When a pills increase his effects with time and dosage, it is no more a placebo...

Second read about shungite for his non negative effect on health...

Third for an improved effect in audio put some copper tape on one side of the shungite plate, i call that " a golden plate" and put it near , power supply, or the electrical central panel, or anywhere in upstream of the audio system but NOT near the dac,or the amplifier....( the copper side always external) You can try it behind the speakers electronics or cables....There will be a lowering of the noise floor that i cannot explain at low cost....

I am in the business to give to myself and others that dont have the money the Hi-Fi experience, mainly with homemade low cost methods that improve the mechanical (resonance-vibrations) embeddings of an audio system, the electrical embeddings by lowering the noise floor of the house, and the acoustical atmosphere of a room not only with passive materials but with active methods...All my ideas are free to use and experiment with....

Even if my system look like a joke, it is not one. trust me....I dont need to upgrade it at all, then at least he is good....
Most people dont know how to embed their audio system and know only one way to create a better S.Q. : very costly upgrading.... I know better and i want to give that advice to all: embedding an audio system is the KEY to a great S. Q.

Never upgrade BEFORE embedding what you already owns.....Then you will listen to the true potential of what you already have in hands BEFORE changing it at higher cost, half of the times with no more complete satisfaction....



My best to you....

They are easy to place and cost "peanuts."

Thanks sgordon....

I concur with your experience....

My best to you...

Correction error:

 On the " twins fans" my brass cap plumbers are 1/4 inch not 3/4 inch.... Sorry...

Another interesting fact...

Some plates and stones have fallen from the breaker panel in my basement, unbeknownst to me...  I was listening new unknown files for the first times after a trip of 2 days, without using my audio system and dont realize it immediately...When I put a files I know by heart for 30 years, Bach Organ by Walcha, I was frustrated immediately by a loss in the  imaging space...My wife comes and  speak to me about the falling off in the basement...I go down, repair it and WOW... The imaging  comes back like in his first glory...


For those who think " placebo" effects... Think about this story... :) 

Ok I live an unexplained something today...A miracle without any prayer saying before it happens...

I like my Mission Speakers very much, The Cyrus 781 are the best speakers Mission ever made... This is the opinion of someone that know them all and sold them for years...

I read all I can before buying a pair for 80 bucks...But they were broken, one of them was with a  less powerful tweeter than the other...I call back the seller and I say that his speakers were in bad shape...I bought them without listening to them and now I  want my money back... He offers me to cut the price half and I said ok to the deal...

I connected them, and I learned to like them a step at a time... At this time few years ago my tweaks were not in their actual state... I compensate with the balance control the imbalance of the speakers...It was annoying but they were better even with this imbalance than the other Mission speakers I bought few months before, a very good Mission model also...

The miracle happen few weeks after I put 2 "golden" plates behind each of the back of these speakers, the sound improvement were audible immediately...

Now this week my wife observed that the speakers imbalance that was there just some days ago, were no more there...I put the balance control to his normal setting and effectively the 2 speakers now sound on the same level of power intensity at this setting balance...

No explanation, no change, except these "golden" plated added to the speakers.... How can speakers repair themselves?  Is the electronic component electrolytic stimulated by the shungite? I dont know engineering audio nor electronic...But now I have perfect speakers …. :)

 

There exist at minimum 3 embeddings of an audio systems...

But one of them has 2 side:
the passive room treatment with absorbent or reflective materials,
and the active acoustical space modifications of the rooms...

They are not synonymous at all...They are not the same thing even if they play a role in the modification of the acoustic...

I use the "singing" reflectors and the Helmholtz resonators in a way very complementary to the passive room treatment but they are not the same thing...They are used in a more active way because of the importance of the locations , height, and orientations in the room...

The modified Schumann Generator are another powerful active way to modify the acoustical space...The more active and impactful one in his effects...

Then keep in mind when we speak about three embeddings:

1-The mechanical environment of each electronic component (vibrations-resonances controls)

2-The electrical grid of the room and of the house

3a-the passive room treatment with materials
3b-the active acoustical space modifications


" We must keep the number of distinctions smaller than the number of working neurons" -Groucho Marx

The electrical grid of the house is so powerful destroyer of the audio system S.Q. I am baffled...

I just put some small "golden" plate on another telephone box in the basement (I already was taken care of the other 2)...Incredible increase in dynamics and clarity....This comes after I just said to my wife that now for sure my audio system is at his peak working level, and we must wait for nothing of great magnitude about S.Q. :)


The audible effect of this minor change is astounding....Muddy Waters "folk singer" an audiophile cd with unmistakable recording quality makes me able to seize immediately the magnitude of the improvement....


" Never say never except to your wife" - Groucho Marx

If I had the money I would buy a big lithium battery, I will tweak it with my golden plates to decrease his noise level, and i am sure that the results would be better off the electrical grid...


Most people dont know the negative powerful impact of the electrical grid of the house.... They have never listened to their system peak potential S.Q. and they want to upgrade their electronic components with more costly one....How sad!

Update about telephone cables box:

My internet provider is the telephone bell company...

Putting more "golden" plates on these 3 boxes and the wall unused plugs linked to these boxes makes a big differences...It was immediately noticeable, but after hours of music, I know for sure because plenty of details are new on some files...


Really the 4 methods linked to my 3 embeddings are the ONLY way to give yourself a great audiophile experience....

Unbeknownst to us, the electrical grid is the great destroyer of the sound....Discussing amplifier choices or tastes or even dac choices, after that seems preposterous, because the difference between electronic components is most of the times insignificant,compared to decreasing the noise floor of the electrical grid, especially if these electronic components are on the same rung of the scale price...Even the difference between speakers can be critically assessed only in a treated room and in an acoustically modified space ( remember that this a 2 different things)...How is the sound of a speaker is a question that has no meaning except for the designer out of a specific room....


I am flabbergast another time with my last "golden" plate use....And by this disruptive power of the electrical grid and the high level of the noise floor...I know that 6 months ago for example, but i am flabbergast anyway each times this noise floor is decreased...Imagine those people who believes all is right in their audio kingdom because of their new amplifier or dac; for sure all is better with a better piece of E.C. but at the end it is a veiled costly illusion that hide the essential ... :) I cannot laugh because I was one of them, and I am again one of them because I myself underestimated the high noise floor of my electrical grid to this day....I can smile but I cannot laugh indeed... :)


A big lithium battery for the dac and the amplifier will cost big money.... I dont have this money then i had no other choice now to add new "golden" plates....

I had a new idea to makes them more powerful ….But I must wait from China.... :) 

To be continued....

I know that information fields exist indeed...I am not like the crowd, if you know what i means! :)

But in this precise case, the BELL provider of my internet computer optical cables has some boxes located, upstream the router which is on my wife desk, in my basement... This is where I put 4 new "golden" plates.... And this is part of the electrical grid of my house generally speaking....

For the moment I have not investigated, like you, information fields...It will comes indeed after I will de done with these 3 embeddings in four parts ( i distinguish now active and passive acoustical room controls)...The fourth will be more subtle to investigate like you know already...And I dont think this is interesting to investigate the fourth with the physical 3 others in bad shape...

A remark:

If I may add something to your sayings my friend

This is the dimension of imagination.

I will say that this is the dimension of active creative imagination, that makes perception possible, not the passive one that agitate the deluded spirits...


My best from the past to the future...

" Ears are like spiders in their webs"- Groucho Marx

UPDATE

"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"

I just add some other brass plumber caps to the one of the center of each 3 fans...One caps had a bigger herkimer diamond stick in it than the other.... I just tape a band of thin copper sheet around the 2 caps and that on the 3 fans...

Guess what?

Yes a better S.Q. on all count...

My twin fans enchancer room controls are now complete.... resounding success... So much that i cannot imagine that the wood room enhancer that inspire my totally different enhancer is even better....

Hi-Fi for the poors is possible indeed.....


Someone can explain to me how a copper tape of few inches wrapped around 2 caps on the center of a fan enclosure can be so powerful for the acoustic of the room?

People dont wait any explanation to be creative.... And dont trust the negative naysayers, trust your ears....At the end of times all will be explained....

« We are here to love not to know»- Anonymus soul

We dont know all the music we miss before the rightful embeddings process ends...

Upgrading urge is most of the times only a result of this ignorance and powerlessness in our own audio journey....

I believe God exist....

I know that shungite does not work with piezo electrical effect, I can believe shungite work against RF but I dont know that... What I believe and know is that stones in an electro magnetic field work in a way and modify its effect...My metaphor for it is " filtering" because no stones act on the exact same frequencies in the same manner.... But all that is speculation... I know for sure that crystals and stones affects acoustical perception of music why? Explain it to me.... 

Be careful before answering if you do.... :)

" Believing and knowing are on the same hermeneutical spiral" - Dr. Groucho Marx

Update About the breaker panel:

I add 2 another "golden" plates on the breakers panel, glued with nanotaper, the audible effect were striking.... It was the 12 th and 13 th in my basements, and the 7 th and 8 th on the breakers panel (all around 275 gram each)… There are 5 located on the optical cables boxes and wall unused plug....

These 2 last one provoke a great deal audible effects and I was surprized indeed...I  calculate the cost of a big lithium battery compared with the cost of all the shungite plates , it is 1000 dollars I save with the plates...But is the result are the same? I dont know but I doubt that the battery non treated with my golden plates would be way better that what I have now... 

I never claimed or even suggested shungite was piezoelectric. Only crystals can be piezoelectric. So, there’s that. But my point seems to have gone wooosh! over your head because shungite can not (rpt not) act on EM waves by shielding or absorption because the entire component would have to covered with shungite. RF would simply do and end run around the shungite. 🏈

Shungite is not like a Bounty Towel, the Quicker Picker Upper. So what left? Well, there is placebo effect. Don’t get me wrong. I would not object to a placebo effect every once in a while. It occurs to me the latest and greatest audiophile products employ Graphene, not shungite. But maybe there is a market for shungite, too. Let’s wait and see. 👀

Pop quiz! 🤗 What do Graphene, shungite, graphite and carbon fiber all have in common?

Placebo effect is not cumulative in this way, for example before placing a G.P. (golden plate) at some place, I tried some other places...The effects are never the same in intensity.... The weigh of the G.P. plays also a role...Then the placebo effect work only with some critical weigh and at some favorite location? And the placebo effect work cumulatively? It is a great deal to put on the back of the placebo effect... :)

Placebo effect is part of any experiment yes, but cannot be invoked for explaining everything....My breakers panels is not my body, I cannot fool it with a placebo product instead of the regular aspirin...Placebo effect experiment need statistical calculus for his impact to be estimated and eliminated, on a crowd in a medical experiment, because it is already always there and cannot grow if not use with reinforced suggestion, because each patient is a sensible suggestible reactive organism in some way...The population of breakers panels dont react like a population of living body.... For sure my psychic brain is suggestible, but reducing all my audio experiment with different locations, weights and differents stones, to placebo effect, because there is no apparent alteration of the electronic components is too much assuming explanation for my taste... :) It seems you dont have explanations at all simply...At least I have one, the electrical grid is sensible and modified when we introduce something in them...

I dont know about graphene... I will try some liquid formula from china , I wait for, to put that on the G.P to enhance them if possible.... I will see...


But the effect of my G.P. mimic the effects others reported about graphene based products, perhaps not with the same power and efficiency, I dont know... But in my audio system the G.P. formula is striking, conjugated with the Shumann Generator, the golden plate+H.D. and tourmaline they are very powerful...So powerful my results that I enjoy very much what I have already, even if better effect is possible, the cost will surpass my wish to go there...I want homemade formula at low cost... :)

shungite can not (rpt not) act on EM waves by shielding or absorption because the entire component would have to covered with shungite. RF would simply do and end run around the shungite

My point,( seems "to have gone whoosh! over your head"), is not that shungite blocked the R.F. at all, my point is that the structural qualities of each stone I used, introduced in an electrical grid, alters the grid( by some "filtering" and this is only my metaphor to describe the effect, I agree with you on that)....Then it is not necessary to cover all the breakers panel to have a powerful effect like you said....




" Most of the times beliefs choose us more than we choose them" Groucho Marx

The last year of my audio journey, with all these simple homemade creations of mine, i produced in a way an another audio system with the same electronic basic components, amp, dac, speakers...

Explaining a total change in imaging, dynamic, timbre, soundstage, increased clarity in frequencies and perception of new details,  by placebo effect is a bit too much.... If someone dont have an explanation it is better to say so, better than invoke the useful ghost out of the medical context in the experimental fields...By the way in the course of my experiments there is also a "nocebo" effect, the contrary effect of placebo where instead of an improvement there is a degradation effect... This is when the bad stones is located at a bad location....


But "placebo" + "nocebo" cancel each other....Then subsist the necessity to explain the increasing positive effect at the end... :)

Very good example of placebo...

But repeated experiments with different locations, weigh, different stones on a breaker "inert" non living panel or on electronic components is not reducible to this ice-fire effect on a suggestibe living body controlling itself unconsciously....

I was not suggested by someone that these stones will work that way and some others another way, and some others dont...For example ruby is not very good for positive impact on the electrical grid of an audio system...Shungite no more than ruby is always good directly on the electronic component except some E.C. like the S.G....

Nobody suggested positive or negative impacts in advance to my brain( the structural qualities pertaining to each stones is on a non living E.C. like the hot or fire properties on a living body.... Then how placebo can explain all the structural different qualities of each stones associated with many different locations? In the placebo example, it was suggested fire will hit the cobaye not ice; in the experiments many different structural qualities of the stones are unpredictable, because of weigh, location, and difference between the stones....

«a beneficial effect produced by a placebo drug or treatment, which cannot be attributed to the properties of the placebo itself, and must therefore be due to the patient’s belief in that treatment...»


The important words are: "the beneficial effect... cannot be attributed to the properties of the placebo itself"


How do you know that the structural differentiated properties of each stones cannot be the cause of some physical changes in the audio grid, resulting in a different positive or negative perceived impact?


Discarding the importance of this fact, : each stones is very different from others, you reduce arbitrarily some possible physical effects, negative and positive, resulting from the introduction in an audio grid of some different objects to an undifferentiated psychological effect of a mind on his own body by suggestion....It seems to me that one is not reducible to the others without negating some facts before any investigation... Then speaking for this phenomena of placebo effect is premature to say the least...

Back to my obsessive mind state.... :)

I just order 12 shungite tiles to makes my last "golden" plates....

But the graphene + mica liquid I wait for will take much times to comes, thank to the coronavirus...


With these 12 tiles of 110 grams each, lighter than my other tiles, I will cover more ground….Cost 100 dollars....(1,500 grams of shungite)


I cannot wait because the last additions in my basement gives a great upgrade to the imaging power of my audio system at the 2 listening locations, regular or nearfield ....

I am very pleased now but I am addict to the improvements and want to touch the limits of my actual system which I never think would be able to gives me so much.... :)

It seems my Mission Cyrus speakers, after suddenly repairing by themselves( I dont know how to this day), were a good purchase, the Sansui AU 7700 is astonishing, and my starting Point System NOS dac without perceptible limitations in this audio system with my ears.... Then after all these tweaks in the 4 areas : mechanical and electrical, and in the acoustical passive and active modes, I will know what is the real potential of my system finally....


I will repeat my mantra, rant, and experience ;the majority of us do not know what the system we have is capable of, to begins with....Dont buy anything, before deep thinking....

whostolethebatmobile

Do I need the glue for the graphene+ mica liquid?

I was thinking that the glue would be necessary with the material form of graphene not the fluid? am I wright?

Ok I understand..... I will ask Mr. Owen to add the PVA... Thanks my friend….


The only problem is the postal services....Alas! this corona crisis seems to be a big crisis with no end in sight....

I will wait for the graphene+mica fluid.... I want to apply directly on the shungite side of my plate....I will experiment with the pva mix later.... By the way where do you buy the pva?

Salutations whostolethebatmobile

Yes Mr. Owen will send me the liquid formula but because of postal services problems I wait for him to send me some news about that....I want to use that on my "golden" plates....

The "golden" plates are very easy to make and with some other stones, like Herkimer diamond and tourmaline, are a powerful noise cleaner in the electrical grid.... The results I enjoyed so far looks like some astonishing descriptions from other products by some customers....

My intuition is to apply the shungite-mica on one side(not the copper side) of the plate...I use thin small golden plates in conjugation with my Schumann generator to actively modify the acoustical space of a room already, it will be simple to add the graphene+mica on a thin plate and listen the result....


What do you think?



My best to you....

Thanks for your toughtful kindness and words...

I only try with very low cost means if it is possible to experience a more than only good S.Q.

It is possible, and i want to communicate this possibility...

but everyone will develop it for himself with his own imagination...

Only one law will stay:

Dont upgrade anyything before embedding everything rightfully...

Audio S.Q.  is not only caused by good improved electronic design, it is easy to buy some good electronic design; Audio S.Q. comes from a rightful methodical experiments in the 3 embeddings of any audio system...

My best to you.....

Update :

The " Bell of bells"...


It is in the center of my room ,dangling stable from the ceiling at the center of the room...

It is a bell, 2 inches diameter , around it 2 layers of cones bell (fishing alaskan cones) in which i have glued some herkimer diamonds... But i put only half of them with H.D. i was lacking diamonds at the times and it is working well like that....

Now i put H.D. in all of the cones bells...

Audible effect in near listening and regular position, good on all counts...Better imaging mainly and better dynamic....

Wow...

i was just thinking that there is no more i could do....

But my last order of herkimer diamonds just arrived, perhaps300 .... :) At peanuts costs....I must keep it a secret but shungite and herkimer diamond are very powerful tools for me , the others rocks, minerals or crystals, were useful, but these 2 break the bank when you know how to use them....

My best to all....

Update

"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"


My friends audio experiments are very instructive, and sometimes amazing, bordering to  the incredible...

In a room  where many active controls device are already in place,  for example in mine, many "grids of cones bells", the "bell of bells",   Schumann generators grid, helmholtz bottles, etc In this kind of room 2 simple bands of copper tape 8 inches each long, wrapped around the   cone bells grid  in the center of the fans enclosure (12 cones 2 big and 10 small one all with herkimer diamonds in center) will make an enormous difference....

I wrapped the copper tape in first experiment, around all the cones grid in the center enclosure of each fan including the 2 big cones....

In a second experiments i only wrapped around the little 10 cones without  including the 2 big one....

Results: the second experiments gives a better results  but the difference that  two 8 inches long  wrapping tape around some cones  can produce  if wrapped around some cones and not around some others are staggering....

ACOUSTIC  dictate the ultimate S.Q. more than electronic design in most cases.....  

Thats all....

I think the waves of direct sound and refracted sound in a room are an extension of the ears/brain, the waves of sound in the room are like an extension of the ears sensing organs and linked to the working creative interpretation of the music by the brain...( the imaging of the music scenery for example is a reconstruction by the brain linked to the" perceived" acoustical room like in echolocation )

The cones bells grids wrapped with copper tape on my wall, on the fans enclosures centers, on my speakers, on my computers screens, are like passive and stable beacons and tags located all along the fixed banks of a flowing river ( with different waves of sound conflicting with each others)... The ears/brain use these beacons to recreate the music image that is flowing with the waves...

But for sure the cones bells of different size are also tiny resonators, like the herkimer diamond (H.D. ) in their center, and their diameter, their composition materials, even the dimension of the H. D. all that play also a big role and they change the relation between direct sound wave and refracted sound waves .... They are not only passive beacons then, but also active players in the acoustical field....

I am not a scientist this is just metaphors to convey my experience....

:)

One thing is for sure, acoustics is not a simpler science than electronic design science at all....

My new active controls method for room acoustic
is a continuation of my "twin fans combing sound room enhancer"....

I will not speak in details about it for the moment....
Many new readers will think i am crazy, after many past readers think that already anyway...

I will describe it later for sure, i dont fear other’s opinion....

But even for me it is difficult to imagine that change and how it works....

If so, acoustic is not what acousticians think it is, It is way more than they think....

One thing is sure my adio system increase in S.Q. another notch today...

It is very easy to verify for me, it takes almost a minute of listening.... I verified after this first amazing minute for many hours with many files i know perfectly well and files which i know how they are supposed to sound in my room....

i am amazed ....

Acoustic active devices are almost half of my S. Q. now...

The rest is passive treatment of the room, + the 2 other embeddings...

I will post photos in the near future to describe my "twin fans" modifications....

I am too old to start a career in acoustical audio.... :)

Alas!

But i can treat myself at least.....

Enjoy music....

«Life is shorter than the long dying breath of a dragon .»-Groucho Marx

UPDATE:

My new active controls method for room acoustic
is a continuation of my "twin fans combing sound room enhancer"....


I am not a scientist at all....
Only an ordinary guy who listen carefully with "ordinary" hearing capacity for my age , but with learned hearing abilities over the mean population, being a lover of music and an audiophile for the last 7 years, and consciously so for the last 2 years....

My last experiment is so successful that i discover truly amazing facts...

In a word, i connect with very thin phone cable the 2 twin fans, with their cones grids of 2 different size on the enclosure with Herkimer diamond at their center...

After connecting the 2 twin fans and the 2 size of cones bells on them with cables, i connected the 2 twins fans cones bells grids to 2 Schumann generators, themselves connected all around my room to the other 8 one....

The upgrading S.Q. was an increase of all factors and aspect of sound qualities...

I am flabbergasted indeed...

Now what this means?

This means that PASSIVE room acoustical controls has some limitations to correct the room , especially irregular and small room...

ACTIVE acousticals controls are revolutionary in S. Q. terms ...

The human ears not only read direct and indirect sound coming from the speakers and the room, but we can use some connected active resonators to help the ears/brain to free themselves from the limitations of the room itself...

The ears/brain not only PASSIVELY READ the room but can ACTIVELY TRANSLATE the limitations of the room and transmutating them in some other space totally....

Wow! i will repeat that:

The ears/brain not only PASSIVELY READ the room but can ACTIVELY TRANSLATE the limitations of the room and transmutating them in some other space totally....




This is my last discovery.....

Thanks for this almost "unique" confirmation of my experiments....

You must put a copper tape on the external side of the shungite plate to optimize his impact and works with less negative effects....

A pyramid of shungite is not very practical most of the times...( except for feet good idea!) I prefer plate...Thin one for connector and big one for the different locations all along the electrical grid....

I use "golden plates" all along my electrical grid with great success ( 30 plates perhaps)... I wait for 12 more in the next weeks...." 2 plates for example behind each speakers electronics and connectors)

I appreciate your feed back....

My deepest regards....

I apologize for my lack of patience with sarcasm.... :)

My only excuse is english is not my first language....Sometimes i miss some clues...  :)

UPDATE:
My ultimate Cable connections of all my grids

This connection between all these grids in fact confirm the separation of the music from the speakers... It is true in nearfield or at distant position...

This is marvellous and the cost of this is:  Peanuts....

Hi-Fi cost  way more less than i was thinking 7 years ago.... It is no more at least  over 10,000 dollars, the final cost is PEANUTS...

Dont buy if not necessary and  Think before buying.....

My ultimate Cable connections of all my grids

I was using very thin copper telephone cable and i connected my grid of stones and crystals, some grids of cones bells, the grid of Schumann generators, the " twin fans" to the central "Bell of Bells" dangling from my ceiling and in the middle of the room....

All is now connected, it was not the case before....

And wow! improved imaging and separation and especially better dynamic, all music are better....

I now had create for myself the proof that ACTIVE acoustics controls exceed the effective power of transformation of the S.Q. than the controls used for the 2 others embeddings, the mechanical, and the electrical...

Passive acoustical controls cannot be replaced by active one, but passive materials will never gives to the sound the living quality of real sound... A perfect accurate sound reproduction in a room is not synonymus with "living" holographic sound quality.... Passive controls work toward a more perfect sound, diverse connected active resonators work toward a more "living" sound... A greek theater for example enhance the sound and his ends was not to gives first more perfect sound but more living one....

Non connected resonators like my Helmholtz bottles or my singing chip metal resonators are passive resonators .... Cones bells with herkimer diamonds. connected to 10 Schuman generators are active one...

I hope this is clear for all...

I will go back to music.....

UPDATE:
My ultimate Cable connections of all my grids

This morning i just connected the most costly and refine Schumann Generator i own among the ten already connected ,one with another around the room; i connected this more powerful one which is over my computer screen, between my speakers, to the "Bell of bells" dangling from my ceiling... This is the third connection from the "Bell of bells" with a third Schumann generator in the grid that link all of them...

Staggering increase all across imaging, and the other factors of sound quality...

My dear friends, the only way to modify the properties of a bad room, is not mainly the passive acoustical treatment, but really and mostly the active acoustical controls by way of active connected device like an array of Schumann generators...

The audible effect is at the end a COMPLETE deconnection of the sound from the location of the speakers themselves and from the negative limitations of the room...

Astounding and what is the cost: PEANUTS...

Be creative and dont read those who want to sell you something....

Before buying something, embed everything rightfully....

:)

I will go back to heaven now.....


NOTE:

All my 10 Schuman generators are modified with cables that connect them all and with crystals and "golden plate"... They are cheap cost, 10 bucks from Hong-Kong, except one at 50 bucks.... It is not a good idea to buy only one at very high cost.... Because an array of 10 cheap one around the room and connected is more flexible device and more powerful than only very pricier one....Their power supplies or USB connectors are also treated with "golden plates" or crystals to lower the noise floor...

denverfred
I use self adhesive copper tape on the shungite.... The copper tape is always at the external side of the shungite, namely the shungite face always touch any location where i put it all along the electrical grid....

For pyramid, but it is not practical and i dont use them much, i cover with copper tape all faces of the pyramid except the base; then it is the basis of the pyramid that is in contact to the gear or objets where i put it....

Please ask your questions here and report here....

I wish you the best

UPDATE:

When i connected the thin phone cable between the "Bell of bells" and the Schumann generator it gives better results sometimes if the cable touch directly the S.G. instead of a stone or an herkimer diamond on the S.G....On some my cable touch the stone....

You must experiment not only with materials but with your ears...

Sometimes the audible changes are subtle , but when you love it very much, you speak with adjectives like awsome, marvellous, etc
The essential is that with this one hundred subtle changes i lived through i own now a top audio system, not the best there is by all counts no, but people would think that for the money(500 bucks for the 3 main component) my system is one of the best there is... And i think so....

It is the reason WHY i am the only voice on all audio forums i ever read to say that audiophile experience MAY cost peanuts, if you dare to try being creative with your listenings experience.... If i could, anyone can....

I give to you all the concepts: the three embeddings...(mechanical,electrical active and passive acoustical controls)
Any electronic component is "generically" created design,but to gives his utmost , it must be "specifically" embed....


I give to you some ideas in my thread to replicate with your own improvisation on the basis of your own audio systen, your own house and room and ears...And with more money invested if you want and better results than mine....

I give to you the confidence that it is possible because i made it...

I am proud of myself.... 


Thanks for reading with patience my not so modest bragging but it is for your own good not only mine....

:)

UPDATE:
My ultimate Cable connections of all my grids

I just made a fourth connectionwith thin phone cable to another set of Schumann Generators from the dangling "Bell of bells" in the center of my room...

Almost all my S.G. are connected by thin phone cables now to the twin fans and to some cones grid and to some grid of stones....

Except for a very costly designed acoustical room, the way to go for all of us is with passive treatment of the room... But this passive treatment CANNOT replace the active controls i created with the grid of modified and cabled Schumann generators and my other grids and cones resonators....

Each room with difficult dimensions and some other particularities will present many obstacles, then passive treatment only will be unsufficient and ven with many resonators ( my singing resonators and the Helmholtz one)....We must try with many more active resonators and active Schumann generators all connected....

Results were better with each connections...And 4 small audible increase in S.Q. at the end create an astounding effect....

Takes with a grain of salt my qualifying adjectives all along the way, but not my final results.... There is NO relation between the S.Q. of these same electronic components i own all along these series of experiments from the beginning to the end results....No comparison.... My self confidence comes from that, and i can say most people dont know the real S. Q. potential of their own audio system by too much lack of controls in their three embeddings....

My sound heaven is in 2 form: nearfield 3 feet and at 8 feet from the speakers, with an astounding holographic imaging decoupled from the speakers....No degradation of timbre or dynamics, except if i connect it in a wrong manner .... We cannot make it without listening experiments, because each audio room is different, but my devices will work in any irregular small room...

My best to all....

Audio heaven cost peanuts..... Dont upgrade, embed it all..... :)

Dont trust anyone except your wife and your ears.. :)

Dont buy anything, be creative, even with sarcasms....

I wish you the best....

UPDATE:
My ultimate Cable connections of all my grids


I just add a fifth thin phone copper cable to the dangling "Bell of bells" from my ceiling, parallel to the other last cable i have add, to another Schuman generator beside another one already connected today to the same Bell....

Audible effect immediately evident, a decoupling of the speakers TOTALLY from the sound image.... Before that i was speaking of an holographic image detached from the speakers, but this times it was a very complete detachment indeed...

The reader must understand that BEFORE the change, nobody can consider and envision the depth of the changes... This explain why i repeat all along my posts the same increasing changes with the same words.... all my device controls and experiments add something new one step at a time..... At the end the sound has no more relation with the few months before.... I even said to my wife 3 months ago, " i think i am done with my inventions and i cannot increase the S.Q. no more"....She does not believe me even if i believe it myself when i said it....


You are like me with your audio system unconscious of what it can really gives at his optimal working level when the 3 embeddings are relatively on controls, especially the acoustic active controls of the room, key to the speakers revelation and not only the passive one....

I hope the best for you all..... Music heals....

mahgister... I took the plunge and purchased some shungite tile,black tourmaline and herkimer diamonds.

Try that with a cooper self adhesive tape on the external side of the application.... And try that on the main router of your house and any lovations all along the electrical grid of the house... But NOT on the main gear, except behind the speakers electronic and connectors...

Power supply and surge protectors, power strips etc....

UPDATE
Twin Fans sound combing room enhancers

Errors or mistakes are sometimes good for creativity, and anyway go with it...

I ordered on amazon by mistake 30 "mei neng fish tackles"....
They are not bell shape cones... )

But they are long cones like tube , and i used them in my fans, around the connected bell shape connected cones grid in the center, without connecting them and without Herkimer diamonds in them....They work like a tube and i dont want to block the little hole in their center....

And guess what:

Increase on all S.Q. count , but especially a bigger soundstage in my 2 listenings position without any loss on timbre, imaging or dynamic, in fact an improvement on all....




This times if i think about my past experiments for the last 2 years, i must change the % of S.Q. attributed to the 3 embeddings....

The acoustical active devices worked so powerfully that they are the main S.Q. improvement at the end in % term....

I dont suffer now from my room accidental limitations...

Really there is no speakers that are good in a bad room... Except perhaps 10,000 dollars one can give this illusion and are the reason why people buy that and put them in a room without any acoustical passive controls or on few, and no active controls at all...But trust me good speakers in a treated room sound on par with costly one....


I dont know but in a word i cannot imagine a much, much better sound that what i own now.... Understand me, there is plenty of audio system better than mine, but for the price, trust me, anybody will want and will choose mine....Ratio price/quality is the balance and when you listen to music you forget the minors improvements that will come only with a big amount of money invested ....

I’m proud to have freed myself from the prison of my audiophile desires and obsession and gives to me the gift of the music i dreamed about for myself years ago....

Dont buy anything if not necessary, think, and embed everything, especially the speakers....

:)

I only hope that reading about some of my experiments some newcomers will go with the road of listenings/creative experiments instead of throwing their money with too much hope in "generic" electronic new components, and no knowledge at all about the "specifics" of the 3 embeddings necessities.... Thats all....

UPDATE  :   " The Golden Strings"

After one hour of listening this time at nearfield i have the same powerful transformation...

Incredible.... Two 13 inches copper ribbons with forty stones each....

 I cannot stop listening my very well known files....

I now can affirm with total certitude that the most powerful controls embeddings is the acoustical one passive+active...

The 2 others together cannot give the same amount of spectacular audible effects on soundstage, imaging, dynamic.... The 2 other embeddings work greatly for tonal timbre accuracy  and in a lesser way for the soundstage, and imaging and dynamic... But the acoustical controls affect also the timbre accuracy for sure but much more the 3 other characteristics....

It is normal if we think about it, because mechanical embedding controls and electrical one affect the integrity of the signals but the topology of the room play with the aspect of the signals coming from the speakers that will be affected  most by a bad synchronisation between direct waves and indirect one, and a bad translation of one into another.... The good translation make possible by active controls i call  that a better "informed wave" which is easily and better decoded by the brain's Fourier analysis computer....

I go back to heaven listening  for the night ...

My best to you  friendly ghosts....    :)

My last and one of the more powerful creation to change the negative acoustical obstruction of a bad room’s topology....


" The Golden Strings"

I put 2 ribbon of copper self adhesive tape (13 inches long) with 40 micro Herkimer diamonds on each ribbon, glued them on each side of my Bell of bells each one dangling from the ceiling in the center of the room ....Each ribbon is centered face to the speakers...

Astounding increase in soundstage and better high frequencies difffusion in all the room, then NO MORE link between the sound and the speakers location, and no problem with my bad room topology and the bad location of one speaker near the wall and in a corner...

I am so flabbergasted that if i was reading my own thread i will not believe it myself...

In my 2 positions of listening the sound encompass me...

The reason is that the direct waves from the speakers are now so reinforced in comparison to the indirect waves coming from the room walls and furnitures, that i created a more"informed wave" for the brain to decode and more easily decoded, because of the Bell of cones in the center of the room, and the grid of cones on my Twin Fans enhancer, that work like stable BEACONS with the "Golden Strings" on the flowing waves of sound in the room....These fixed points or beacons made easy for the brain his Fourier analysis of the waves....The Herkimer diamonds also transform the waves by resonance with them....

This is a description of what i experience not an explanation, nor science.... I could not wait for an engineer to say what i must do to create sound heaven, and i could not pay him anyway... And no acoustician i know of advise his customers to do these ACTIVE acoustical room controls by far.... But it is a total success...Passive treatment are different and necessary but way less powerful....They do not reinforce the direct waves in relation to the indirect and reflexive one and this is my explanation....

Speakers design is most of the times if not always secondary to acoustic controls .... This is very well proven for me now....

I dont know if more than 2 or 3 people read this completely insane thread of mine, but i hope to be useful to at least one....

Cost of the "Golden String" : under ten dollars for the 80 herkimer diamonds from China (3 gram)

If i say peanuts cost no one will contradict me..... :)

I realize searching the internet that NOBODY seems to know about ACTIVE room controls...

All acousticians speak about numbers acoustic wave equations and how to treat a room with passive materials... They like their model too much to change it .... :)

Anybody reading my posts will think that i am nut....

:)

Ok i am....

:)


« You cannot crack a nut with another nut»- Groucho Marx 

UPDATE : Upgrading the " The Golden Strings"


Guess what?

I now connected the 2 " Golden Strings" with the thin phone cable to the "Bell of bells" and then to the Schumann resonators grids and to the "Twin Fans" by the same token... All is connected...

The increase in the extension of the high frequencies was audible on the spot...

No negative impact at all.....

The ACTIVE acoustical controls of the room is the SECRET of Audio.... Save perhaps in a totally acoustically designed room and i am not even sure that this will be better, except perhaps by the best acoustical engineer in America... :)

Active acoustical controls create an autonomous space in the room, out of the walls absorbtion or reflective obstructions of the furniture or other conendrums , the results cannot be improved except perhaps if PERFECTLY treated by a competent acoustician...I am not one, i am only creative....

Active acoustical controls is my greatest discovery, and i called the new sound: "informed waves" because the balance between the direct and reflective waves seems to be in synchronisation, thanks also to the powerful resonance passive feed back controls by the Herkimer Diamonds grids....

The same components i did not like so much 2 years ago, i am in love with now and listen to in extasy...My Mission Cyrus 781 speakers, my Starting point systems NOS dac, and my Sansui AU 7700....Changing any of them seems to me useless.... For sure i can buy something better but at a cost that will be ridiculously high compared to this system cost.... And the music is delivered holographically, inhabit my room like the speakers did not exist...

My motto is the truth in AUDIO:

Dont upgrade anything before rightfully embedding everything......

I dont know what i can say more than that , then i will go back to heaven....

:)

You CAN crack a nut with another nut. Place two walnuts in one hand and squeeze. You will be amazed!

I am not a gorilla.... :)

I am human and i create the needed technology...For nuts a little rock or hammer no need for a gorilla hand ever ....


«Without the gorilla's hands, you cannot crack a nut with another nut»- Groucho Marx