Mcintosh MQ112


Hi all - 

I have a pair of B&W 802d's (first version). Now I know everyone thinks that they are crap and as bright as the sun.

Before tossing them aside, what do you feel about adding a Mcintosh MQ112 equalizer after my preamplifier?

thanks in advance....

 

 

onehorsepony

@jetter Wrote:

The old advice about sound degradation using EQs is just that, by and large an old wives tale.  Without an EQ you are locked into what the designers thought was the sound you like.  Adding an EQ to slightly tweak your sound to your preference is both fun and satisfying.  

I agree! 

See paragraph below from the designers of my speakers about EQ.

''RAMIFICATIONS OF THE NEW DESIGN APPROACH 1. The room curve will be fIatter; equalization will be more accurate Studio monitors are generally equalized as a matter of course. Control rooms are rarely as smooth at low frequencies as may be desired, and mounting conditions for the monitors are not always _ideal. Further, the user's concept of monitor equalization balance may not agree with that of the manufacturer. Even though we believe that constant coverage monitors will require less equalization than previous designs, the need for equalization may still exist,'' See full article heresmiley

Mike

I have the Schiit Lokius that cost $300.  It is not remote control but I have it in the tape loop of my preamp which is RC.  So I can use the preamp RC to have it equalizing the sound or not with the push of a button.  But I cannot adjust the bands using RC.  For my purposes it is all I need.

The loki max cost a good deal more but to have EQ on the fly sounds great.  There was one on the other sale site that I was eyeing but I decided I didn't really need it.  It was for sale there for months, but just two days ago it was gone.

Schiit of course has a trial period.

 

@onehorsepony 

Some speakers just sound inherently brighter than others, such as B&W, Magico, Focal, and many others, but by no means does this mean they're crap or incapable of sounding incredible.  That's ridiculous.  Sonus Faber, on the other hand, tends to sound just the opposite of the aforementioned speakers.  This principle also applies to high-end components as well, such as amps, preamps, DACs, etc.  That's why system synergy is critical.  Make no mistake, your B&W speakers have the potential to sound absolutely incredible if paired with the right electronics and cables, which is fundamental to putting together a great sounding high-end audio system in the first place.  Happy listening.           

LM great for small band adjustments. Falls apart sonically with bigger moves. There pro pieces that sound better. Have heard many in my home that best LM. I own one that I love. Not made anymore but a total gem. Have not heard the MQ112 but want to. 

Live near enough to me in Plainfield, NJ, 07062?

I got hearing aids and a dual 31 band equalizer at the same time, thinking the eq might do a better job if I plugged the inverse of my hearing test into it. Turns out the hearing aids have a program for live music that is full frequency without compression, sounds darn good and the perforated cups allow a mix of sound in to preserve imaging (my biggest concern).

so I am not using the equalizer. It has a bypass switch, zero noise,

Thus you could try it before spending any real money.

from amazon, I took it apart, examined it's innards, it is an exact clone of DBX 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NAK4BE8?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1

btw, why not start by measuring what your speakers are delivering at your listening position in your space with test tones and a SPL?

I could help you find a used copy of this CD with 29 1/3 octave tones (tracks 9-38)

https://www.discogs.com/release/7290000-Various-Amazing-Bytes?srsltid=AfmBOopWzyXq35pr3WXSHbpsnWLyWtchUM9JAgkXdk62tV1Rh7v6ZYtM

and an inexpensive SPL meter is all you need, you get 'relative' truth, (no need for expensive calibrated exact truth) make sure it has a threaded hole to mount on a tripod at seated ear level

https://www.amazon.com/RISEPRO-Decibel-Meter-Digital-Sound/dp/B01EZZ8B5Q/ref=sr_1_6?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5D-pYnZdi199rw8zA4ihTCAwiVfureRhXVuoooC0i0bgGnJimMECG-I-DWjFXgFLqx_RK4mr13LJxFDpwMsLaOp3BXlTQa_LYbAUZmpIYziIbg_NNBKq4GfuSvYjbcx-tuh-bD4rkm30kZwVURuyR7xG5tAi_-Ba68P7Gof2sg08_0St9rDdS-K67tCfOpbZi-MAt4s5Suq0HYVZf42eV7yxcGQ7Iq5_2SuhDhV1kVw.0iigoeycEZ3V5NQwwUTLEOMeJoJHK4O699y849SG3so&dib_tag=se&keywords=spl+meter&qid=1749931251&sr=8-6