McIntosh C15 Vs. C712

I've owned both preamps and really can't tell the difference in sound...I do prefer the various loudness control of the C712 much better than the on/off control of the C15...the C712 feels heavier and more substantial, but I don't know that it's any better built...both are great preamps!

I've owned the C712, and for short runs like you mention, there isn't any advantage to using the balanced outs. Are you looking to buy one of these? If so, Mac made a much better preamp in the C37. Not only do you get the balanced outs, you have the unbalanced main outs, and 2 speaker outs, which are essentially 2 additional main outs. You also have the 5-band equalizer, more inputs, and on and on. See roger-russell.com for info on all these preamps. On a personal level, I dumped my C712 for the C37, and was the best move I could have made. What's my amp? The MC7200, a fantastic amp!

I have owned many preamps and keep coming back to the C15 because of its simplicity, format, flexibility, and the remote power-on features which I use with the McIntosh power strip. Its a keeper. Right now, it drives an MC-275-Iv and its a great combination running a pair of Totem mani-2s

Thanks for the info! I am looking at the C15 or the C712, I checked out Roger Russells site, lots of great info,I'm running an MC150 with some Klipsch CF-4's, I love the sound, I have also heard great things about the MC7200, The direct-coupled mac amps are suppose to be a great match with Klipsch speakers, though I haven't heard the combo.I'm looking at upgrading to the MC352 in the future.

I own a MX-132 and a MC-162. How do you get the remote power-on feature to work?

Just use a 1/8 stereo mini plug, you can get one from Radio Shack, get the one that has the stereo mini plug on both ends. And just run it OUT from the Power Control port marked A on the back of the MX132 to the power control IN on the MC162. I hope that helps, refer to the owners manual as well.

Wow I got the radioshack cord. It powers up great. Thank You

I used to have a C712 and highly recommend it for the money. However, I do find the next generation pres (C15, 42, 200, etc) to be a little more transparent overall. I never did a head-to-head of a 712 and 15 though.

Arthur