Marten Coltrane Alto speakers

IT is RIDICULOUS to pretend that a speaker needs 1 year to break in

There is no physical reason to that

Some reviewers are incompetent.

Maybe (as all the marten design line) the alto have the awful/penible high

It probably takes 1 year to completely destroy your ears and make them sound less aggressive.

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Alexsee , the penible Highs are the plague of modern speakers

Some speakers suffer less than other of this problem

Marten design is quite on the side of overly in your face, as Avalon indra and many ceramic based speakers

It is enjoyable at first and not that great after

It is why tube amp are great with these speakers it makes them sound more gentle

It was not a post against Marten design 90% of the avaible speakers suffer from that problem

because it is easy to sell speakers that impress at first

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And the point of my post was to say that a 1 year breaking is a physical non sense

The high destructing the ears in one year was a joke...

Pénible = not enjoyable

In this case agrrrresive, unatural

Alexsee the problem is the way people compare hi-fi system

Them make quick switch between them, and choose the more spectacular one

So manufacturer always put a boost in highs (and high bass) to sell more easely

When manufacturer don't ; they have the reputation to be boring

For example Avalon Isis is told to be too "neutral" in fact it is a correctly tuned (and wonderfull) speaker

For the Indra they have boosted the highs to make it more fun

I mean an indra is still more correct than most of the speakers in the industry but it is an example to explain the thing

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Look on audiogon 99% of people say BS abourt audio, because they don't know the correct methodology to listen a system and they have not correct audio playback to judge either

It is not their fault as they need to have speakers rent for days in their home for judging correctly
And shop rarely do that

Teddy bear you give false information

There are NOT any drivers or speakers that need 1 year or 6 months breaking in

It is not possible on a theorical point of view.

Of course you can invent that it is the case for Marten design's speakers and invent a room where the speakers are breakin during months before they are put for sale.

But it is not true.

You don't fool anybody

I am sure that you believe in ion stuff and magical stones that pretend to improve sound

"Believers" are the today's plague of audio industry

Teddy bear the subject is about a speaker that is claimed to need 365 days of breaking in.

You post that Marten Coltrane have build a special room to ensure THIS problem

So yes i thought you were implying that he was putting the speakers for weeks or months in that prupose

it was logical on my point of view to think so

And now you say that the speakers are in a room during 3 days

We are quite far from 365 days hein?

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By the way what is the name of this reviewer ?
We should definitely memorized his name
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Rob said :

Someone once told me that their Avalon Sentinels were still improving even after a year. Is it true? Who could really say. It might be.

It might as it might be that the Big BUBU live at the bottom of the seas

In fact the thing is not to proove the inexistence of something, on a methodological point of view it is not possible to proove that something doesn't exist

Does invisble green earthworms exist on the moon ?

Who knows !

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Mikelavigne of course i disagree.

Yes the mechnical parts need sometimes a little breakin.

I had speakers with ceramic drivers so yes there is a longer breakin for ceramic than for some other drivers

But we are talking about much more time it needs

I know as the first commentary talks about a year and not about hours of use, there will be weird calculations as "if the guy use the speakers 30min per day it makes the end of breakin after 1 year and blablabla"

I mean can we stop telling false and exagerating stuff ?

It is exactly why people are buying today power cord at 10k

You mikelavigne (and many other reviewers) are saying so much false informations that now innocent people are buying many things that are not needed to improve really the sound.

I don't know you personnaly Mike, but i know people that describe you as nice personn, i don't say that you have no integrity

I say you are a gentle believer, but your position as a director of an audio magazine should push you to be a little more serious in the audio approach.

Teddy bear i am so far above your knowledge

I have heard system that even mike laigne doesn't know the existence

Maybe i am new in the place but fast learning and not spent my life in stupid shops with always the same bad things

More than that i have my study in the domain of theory of accoustic that kind of help now LOL

Take care and learn

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Nevermind Mike, i didn't want to put you under pressure

At first i thought that people here and in other places knew what they where talking about

I was so naive.

1 year ago i start reading serious scientifical books and traveling to listen to most of the high end production of today AND of the past

I am fed up with bad speakers (95% of what is avaible today) ; cables or power cord at XXXXX$ ; false technical information spread everywhere.

It is always the same bad sound and the same bad technical approach to make them

People just don't read anything except reviews and forum, it is not a place to share here just a place to repeat the same mistakes, lies read somewhere

It is why i have ask to stop my account here and everywhere on the web.

I don't learn anything there anymore, and i don't want to be aggressiv so...

And you make a point people come here for pleasure, and i don't have this pleasure anymore

So i am going to do as you just enjoy the music and that's it !