Manley Snapper Mono's ur thoughts - PLEASE :

Hi thanks for the response/input. Steve Deckert and his wife especially are great people and fantastic to deal with. Some of the best there is in the audio business. The MK3 was a great amp but the Snappers are on a different level and at 3 times the retail price they should be. I can say in IMO they are even more than a 3 times upgrade though... I really liked the Tori II amps and I owned the MK2 and the Mk3 and still own their great, maybe best bang for buck preamp out there the CSP2+ that is now called the CSP3 with some minor upgrades. I actually paired it with their incredible ZSTAGE which is a tube buffer/output stage that goes right after your DAC or CDP and before your pre. This combo is amazing and I use the ZSTAGE with everything and can't live w/o it now. It just makes "any" digital that much better, more liquid/smooth as in a oil & ball baring's feel while really upping the transparency as well as carrying more weight and depth. To state simply it is a more robust and transparent sound that is instantly apparent. It really does make a difference and for anyone with mid-fi digital gear it is a revelation. The CSP2+ has individual input and output gain adjustments as does the ZSTAGE so this combo gives the user incredible flexibility to custom fine-tune the sound to their gear. Throw in some NOS tube rolling and this combo is killer and they are real cheap also. I regress. All this said the Snappers demolished the MK3 so off the TorII went:)

plus 2 on the switch .

Off topic - sort of. Curious why you parted with your Zen TorII IV? Not enough juice? SQ? Its a new mk, so it must have had a short life in your system...

I cound not power my Thiel CS6s with the Snappers but can now easily with the 250s.

Did you get together on these? How are they compared to the Snapper? I'm now curious? Thanks

Thanks for your response.
In light of their age, and their retail price when you purchased them, I am willing to offer you $3,600 for them. I do not need the tubes with the amp, however.
I would want to know their serial numbers and see a photo of front and back of the amps if you are interested in my offer.
Let me know.
Thanks,
Jay
P.S. You can simply email me at bnrlaw@aol.com rather than keep posting in this thread.

The amps were purchased new in late 2006. They are in excellent condition; were retubed about a year and a half ago with EH6CA7 power tubes, Sylvania Gold Brand Gold pin 6201 tubes, and Sylvania 12BH7 tubes. Asking price would be $4500. I'm located in a suburb of Chicago.

How old are they? Condition? Asking price? Tube complement?
Where are you located?
Thanks.

Hi Jay. Will do. Any questions in particular?

Fwinston,
I, too, am looking potentially for a pair of 250's.
Let me know if selling and particulars.
Thanks,
Jay (Bnrlaw)

I may have a pair of Manley 250s for sale soon. They are in excellent condition. Thought I'd mention this to you in case you were thinking of buying used.

I use what Manley recommends and designed the amps around

Thanks for the responses... Just curious any tubes you guys used that you would recommend? With the EL34 was thinking XF2 Double getter but their tough to find and pricey maybe the Tele on the input which I read might be better than the Mullard but would love to what others actually use/used... Thanks

They are great amps. Clear, clean, powerful, rocking.
Owned them twice. Awesome for rock. Very driving sound. Very rhythmic.
Only sold them (twice) because I ultimately preferred my Canary CA339 monoblocks with their fifty watts of 300B push pull power over them.
Would still think about re-buying them.

I have them, great amps, wonderfully dynamic, warm mids and easy on the ear. Plus they are dead quiet and do not hum. Having said that, I use them to drive Thiels and am going to move up to Neo-Classic 250s soon. By far these are the best tube amps I have ever owned, I just want a little more oomph for these tough to drive speakers.

Anyone ever hear these? Just trying to get some info. Thanks