Manley Neo-Classic500 vs VTL MB450


Anyone compare these two amps side by side? Or has anyone given a good listen to the Manley alone? Ive read a lot about the Neo-Classic 250 but I have not heard anything about the 500. Does the 500 use el 34s or 6550s? Any input would be much appreciated as I am about to purchase new amps and I know I definately want to go with big tubes.

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braro

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Owl

Speakers are Vandy 2CE Sigs soon to be 3A sigs and room is 14'x 35'x 8'tall with speakers on 14' wall. I am also running (2) 2WQ subs. Current amps are VTL MB 125s. Even with the subs I just cant seem to get much mid bass. Tried speakers in all different locations.