Magneplanar .7 speakers. Have you heard or own them??


I have owned a pair of Golden Ear Technology for about 8 months. I generally like them because of their high level of accuracy and general transparency   However, despite those virtues, I find them to sound cool, and not very involving, or engaging.  Everything being equal, they don't seem to convey the emotional content of the music. I also been finding it difficult to get them to sound right. They can sound a bit bright on some CD's and also provide an overtone on vocals 

I would like to get  feedback from owners of the Magneplanar's .7 speaker, or even if you have only auditioned the speaker a few times in anticipation of buying. Some of the reviews I have read claim that with a fairly powerful amp or integrated, they can cleanly down to 45Hz, but their major strength is a superb midrange and smooth high end. Of course, being familiar with "Maggies" they can give a buyer ulcers trying to get them to sound right especially in medium size room because of their design.  My room is 12.5 X 15 and is separated by a couch to a dining and kitchen area.of almost the same size 

Therefore, I am curious if the .7 can convey that  emotion of music with the same clarity of a  dynamic speaker.  My system is a Rogue Sphinx integrated  amp (100 RMS @ 8ohms, and 200 RMS at 4ohms.  CD player is a Ayre CX-7e mp.

Speaker cables are Harmonic Technology PRO 11+ and  HT Truthlink IC.  I  plug the system into the less expensive Blue Circle's  conditioner which is outstanding,  Thanks to all!!

BTW , I heard the .7 once but not for long, and in a audio shop that carries both Maggies and Golden Ear Technology speakers  However , the owner never seems to have .7 and the GET model 7 on display for audition at the same time.  .   

 

 

sunnyjim

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To don- c55. Good suggestion,  two problems: 1) I don't think they will either fit or work in my room  2) There could be a WAF dilemma. 

Nevertheless, I will check out the planar used section on AG and possibly e-bay  Thanks  

Papermill,  Thank you for the comments they are useful.  I have a Rogue Sphinx V.1 hybrid integrated amp which is 100RMS, and supposedly more into 4 ohms.  I have read in the  separate reviews in Stereophile and TAS that depending on the room size, 100RMS can drive Maggies .7  well enough to sound full, and even reach down to 45 Hz 

This claim was made by  Herb Reichert of Stereophile who is a overly enthusiastic and therefore needs to be taken with a grain of salt.  In his review, he drove the .7  first with the Rogue Sphinx and was a happy camper, but in the end he fell back on his favorite amp, the Vinny Rossie LM218 integrated which is about $4300. Therefore, I don't really find his  reviews credible or the method he uses to review speakers by changing amplifiers to a more expensive and possibly better sounding.

Nevertheless, I am just looking for a speaker that is smooth and enjoyable to listen to despite having to sacrifice some low bass. BTW, what is the size of the room your .7 are placed, and what type of amp are you using.

 I am not wedded to the Rogue Sphinx, especially since they made  important changes to the model about 8 months after I bought it.  It is now the Rogue Sphinx v.2   BTW, to upgrade from v.1 to v.2 is $400. plus the cost of round trip shipping  That would add $200 extra because I live in Los Angeles and Rogue is located somewhere in Pennsylvania.  I don't find this to be so-called customer friendly.   

   

Correction of reply to Papermill: Reviewer Herb Reichert used the Rogue Sphinx integrated almost exclusively to drive the Magneplanar .7. 

I was mistaken also about the amp; he generally cites the glories of the Line Magnetic LM518IA  a tube amp of 22 watts per channel which this month he used to audition the inexpensive Elac B6 bookshelf 

As far as power, I could sell the Rogue and look for a used Parasound Halo integrated which is 160RMS or its equivalent.  I just need an integrated that has a good MM/MC  phono stage  I don't need a DAC because I have no desire to stream music. It  would only be a benefit  if integrated's DAC was superior to the DAC in my Ayre CX-7emp CD player

However from what you  noted about room size and distance from the back wall. I might not have it.  I can get them out about 4 ft from the back wall, and still be seated at least 8ft from center point between  the speakers   However, 6 ft apart is about all I can manage in my current living room set-up. 

I took an interest in this model because of its more compact size compared the larger Maggies, and because I would like a more open soundfield or sound stage and a smoother top end  Musicality is the key.   Thank you for the advice.  

 BTW, how do you handle the speaker terminals on the Maggies. I am running another thread in "Tech Talk" about the ridiculous terminals they have used for 30 years. Any fire hose speaker cable with quality larger  banana plugs will not fit in that hole which secures the male connector with a  screw lug. ( A standard banana plug might work)     

To Johnnyb53,   Thank you for your extensive comments on both the GET model speakers, and Magneplanar 1.7 and .7.  Was there not an "R"  version of the   1.7?? 

Nevertheless, very helpful information.  The Golden Ear Tech model 7 is a very good speaker.  Though it can sound a bit peaky with certain CD's Also,. I am not sure its bass is as tight or dynamic as it should be.  I probably need to switch back to the Grover Hoffman speaker cable which I thought had outstanding bass, but lacked the balance and coherence of the Harmonic Technology PRO 11 + that I replaced them with. 

As far as the Maggie 1.7 (or 1.7R),  the speaker is bigger in size than the new .7. Though, I love deep tight bass, I am a little reluctant to add a  Maggie subwoofer, or for that matter any other brand.SW  The key at this point is whether I will continue using Rogue Sphinx integrated, or find another integrated with more power like the Parasound Halo. The NAD 376BEE I am sure packs a wallop of power, but is also pug ugly.

The issue is whether the Maggie .7 or even 1.7 can deliver the punch and fullness of classic rock music which I play a lot,  some classical, and occasionally rock/jazz fusion like Jeff Beck,  Chick Corea.  Though, as I get older, I find myself moving away from traditional 60's 70's rock, and more toward lighter jazz and world music.  I will have to see how this shakes out

BTW, Today,  I played   one of the Allman Brothers classic albums, "Eat a Peach" which has not been played for over a year.  In particular, the track "Mountain Jam" is as good as it gets marked by the interplay between Richard Betts and the great Dwayne Allman. His musicianship is extraordinary. The Golden Ear Technology model 7 . held its own across the board on this piece played loud.  However, bass, though deep had an almost flappy cardboard sound.  Also, the midrange was not as full on this selection as other speaker,. I have heard in shops which cost a lot more.  The Maggies .7 or 1.7 will have to provide a much fuller midrange with clear detail than  GET model 7 on this Allman Brother's track for me to move toward  a planar speaker.

 Though,. it might be too much to ask of the planar design without going to the bigger Maggies which I cannot accommodate or afford.  Many thanks to all  Cheers!!  

 Thanks to everyone who responded  since my last  reply on 3/31/16. I fooled around more with the  placement  of the GET model's, and got them to sound better, but still there are minor annoying problem. 

In the interim,  I bought a used pair on this site of Wharfdale Denton 80th anniversity monitor  speakers. I have been blown away by the quality and quantity of sound that comes out of this gem. My only quibble is when they get loud, the high-end gets a tad constricted and less smooth. Other than that, the speaker should be a universal template on how to make an enjoyable and easy to listen to speaker.  The sound euphonic (no not warm) but its level of accuracy and detail make it also revealing on many levels.

My other recent preoccupation has been buying an upgrade and cleaned Thorens TD-145.  No long explanation about the drawbacks of vintage, except don't buy it.. Improved damping makes the table dead quiet during play, but I need to find a more compatible and better sounding cartridge than the AT120E which is good, but also sounds restricted in the highs and can sound a bit tinny.  The problem I think is either the headshell and/or tonearm . The headshell offer little leaway backward and forward to set up cartridge using a Geo Disc  .The Thorens headshell protractor is a laughable piece of plastic junk. 

I hope  I can find  either a very good high output MC, or a very good MM under $400.  I would like to avoid the Ortofon  2M  series which I have read does not get really get very good until you get to 2M Black (currently $775)  At that price, I would be better served with a mint used Dynavector 10X5 which because of its weight might not be ideal for the Thorens tonearm.  I used to have a link to measuring chart that explained tonearm capitance and how to match it to cartridge capsitance and phono stage impedance .

 Actually, I think I would have been better served if I bought a new or possibly used VPI Scout Jr (or  a Clearaudio Concept TT w/o cartridge), and replaced the pre-mounted Ortofon 2M Red which has become the prepack favorite of several brands.......   Stay tuned!!     .   

   

To Oregontreat,   Thank s for the comment about  the  Maggie.7.  Like many of the other responses it will be helpful in making a decision. BTW, my listening space is about the same size as your room. 

Also, thanks for the heads up about QRD type diffusors. How did they help with your room acoustics in relationship to Maggies,?? 

To Oregon and Oblgny   Both of your provide rave reviews of the Magneplanar  .7 speaker. I am curious if you ever seen , heard  or seriously auditioned  the Scansonic 2.5 speaker which has  a small footprint and is slim column that retails for $3600., Fortunely they are being resold in what can only be termed a fire sale on AG.  This line is SUPPOSED have the pedigree of the Raidho speakers made in Denmark which sell for almost twice the price.  If either of you auditioned the Scansonic 2.5 model, I would appreciate you comparative comments about them and the Maggie.7   Thank you,  Jim
OT, do you have a link to the above room acoustic devices you mention above. I am afraid to ask, but how expensive are they?? I live in an apartment with  a listening space that is 12X15; a medium size sofa divides the living room space from the dining room/ kitchen area whose dimensions from sofa to the front door are approx 22X15  It is a one bedroom and total space dimensions are 34X15 with 8.5 to 9 ft ceiling. Therefore, acoustic devices I buy will not be permanent to the room as if I owned a home. Even with a few wall carpet wall hangings, maps and two 7 ft book shelves. the sound of the speakers can sound hollow and overbearing. There is an overstuffed recliner that unfortunately is in the way of the right speaker Behind the speakers is a 6 ft picture window blind, and a standard door out to the balcony.  Thank you