Mackie HR824

Mackie HR824's are fabulous speakers. They are bi-amped, powered
speakers and they will take a balanced XLR input from your pre-amp. They
are a huge bang for the buck, impossible to beat the sonics at that price since
you won't have to buy an amplifier. They are used in many recording studios.
Far from being fatiguing, I can listen to them all day long. I'm guessing the
differing opinions here are due to upstream electronics and listening room.
Taste may have something to do with it. Mackies are accurate speakers --
they do not color the sound with artificial warmth or punch out the highs for
artificial edgy detail. They are linear within +/- 1.5db from 39kHz to 22Hz
and the bi-amping means you will get deeper, more accurate bass out of
these than from any other speaker of their size. I've had them in a 15' X 20'
room and they filled it, no-sweat.

Here's a link to a shoot-out comparing Mackie HR824, KRK V-8's, Dynaudio,
Genelec, and others...

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And here's a link to a shoot-out between Mackie HR824's, Revel M20's, B & W
805's, Dynaudio 1.3 II and Reference 3A's.

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>>I cant open that link,but would sure like to,thanks,Bob<<

Try this link ---

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The Mackies beat Dynaudio 1.3's in both shoot-outs and beat Revel M20's
driven by a Bryston amp in another. I've heard both the Revel M20's and
Mackie HR824's and I wouldn't necessarily say the Mackies sound better, but I
think the Mackies sound just as good for less money -- especially when you
consider that the Mackies are powered. Revel M20's are certainly considered
audiophile speakers so it is kind of silly to say Mackie HR824's are not
audiophile grade speakers.

Using that criteria, most audiophile grade speakers wouldn't qualify because they don't happen to be used by an audiophile label to mix or master. But, that wasn't the criteria set out by the original poster.

I'm not sure where you are going because you've completely contradicted
your prior premise, but this needs to be dealt with ---

>>Check out the frequency response curves on your audiophile speakers and
tell me what the curves look like. I bet they aren't any where near flat.<<

Hmmmm....okay, let's look at Joseph Audio Pearls. They have won best of
show at several audiophile conventions. Price: $20,000+

Frequency response +/- 2dB from 25 Hz to 20 kHz.

Von Schweikert VR-9 SE Price: $60,000+

Frequency response: +/- 2 db from 15-35 kHz.

Avalon Eidolon Diamond Price: $30,000+

Frequency Response +/- 1 db from 15-35 kHz

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If you're now saying the frequency response curve of the Mackie HR824's;
+/- 1.5 db from 38Hz to 22 Khz -- is a negative based on the idea that
audiophile speakers are, by definition, less linear, the evidence doesn't
support your contention.

The first three high end speakers I looked at contradict what you're claiming.

Here are six more ---

Aerial Acoustics 20T Price $18,000+

+/- 2db 28 Hz to 30 kHz

Vandersteen 5A Price $15,000+

+/- 1.5 db 20Hz to 30 kHz

Thiel CS 7.2 Price; $15,000+

+/- 1.5 db  25 Hz to 18 kHz

Revel Ultima Salons Price; $20,000+

+/- 1.5 dB from 25 Hz to 18 kHz

Eggleston Savoy Price; $40,000

+/- 1db 20Hz to 20kHz

B & W Nautilus Price $40,000+

+/- .5 db 25Hz - 20kHz

I don't think it is necessary to fill this thread with more examples. Most
audiophiles aspire to own top of the line speakers such as these and they all
contradict your claim about "audiophile speakers."

Your decapo's are rated +/- 3 db 44Hz to 20Khz. I don't know where you
got the idea that your speakers have some exotic frequency response curve
based on psychoacoustics. The frequency response doesn't bear this out and
there is no reference to such a thing on their web-site.

I do enjoy my Mackies. They sound great. I believe they will compete
favorably with anything in their price range and when you consider that they
are powered bi-amped speakers, I consider them a screaming bargain.

The decapo's to which you refer cost $2,500 -- almost twice as much as the
Mackies.

At that price and since they are not powered, they had better sound better
than the Mackies, but this isn't much help to someone who is shopping in the
Mackies' price range. I think we all know that if we spend twice as much, we
are likely to get better performance.