Lyngdorf TDAI-3400


Well, after reading all the rave reviews of the Lyngdorf TDAI-2170 both here and other places, I decided to order a TDAI-3400 for myself.  I must admit I am still skeptical that such a diminutive piece of equipment can sound better than the Primaluna Dialogue Premium HP tube amp weighing more than 50 lbs, but I have been so intrigued by everything I have read I simply had to pull the trigger. 
I just unboxed it today, hooked everything up, and am listening to it for a while before setting up Room Perfect. 
I really want to hear the what the amp sounds like as-is for a bit to understand it better. 
First impressions:  Without Room Perfect it sounds like very nice solid state amps I've owned in the past, but to be honest, I don't find the sound to be particularly moving.  I moved to tubes after years of solid state, and I swore I would never go back.  That is where I'm coming from.  I should also add that I always try to keep an open mind.  While my initial take on it might sound like I don't like it, I hope folks just read this as me being as honest as possible about what I hear.  I know the tendency when buying new gear is to want so badly to love it in order to justify the expense that it's easy to fool oneself into believing it's an improvement over what you had before, even when it's not.  Of course I really want it to be as mind blowing as it has been built up in my mind to be, but if it's not I am OK with simply moving back to what I have liked so far.   
I have only been playing records through it so far.  Analog makes up 98% of my listening so that's where I am starting with it.  I have a nice CD transport that I will connect to it in the next day or so just to hear the DAC in the unit.  I will also experiment with playing files from USB sticks, computer audio from my MacBook Pro, and whatever else I decide.  I am not prepared to purchase a music server just yet, but it's something I have thought about for a while.  
My system:  speakers are Harbeth Monitor 40.1's.  Turntable is an SME 20/2 with SME IV.iv tonearm and Kiseki Purple Heart cartridge, fed to a Parasound JC-3+ phono preamp.  Power conditioner is Audioqest Niagara 7000.  CD transport is a Wadia 8.  
I will report back as I have more time to experiment and let the amp break in.  

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I had the TDAI-3400 for about a year and used only the on board DAC for streaming (Innuous Zenith III) and was pretty happy with it until I tried the Mytek Manhattan 2 DAC.  It's a lot more expensive as a stand alone DAC but the improvements in sound were profound.  
My point is that you might want to explore some stand alone DACs to get the best sound from this amp.  The Schitt Yggy is a high bang for the buck DAC as one example.  Mytek Brooklyn is another one to consider.  Buy one from a seller that allows a trial and the risk is low.
A stand alone music server will also sound much better than streaming directly into the Lyngdorf.  
I am very late to this party, but I just purchased a TDAI-3400.

Until a few weeks ago, prior to moving into a new house, I had been listening exclusively to losslessly ripped CDs, played in Apple Music/iTunes --> NAD M51 DAC --> Pass XA30.5 --> Spatial Audio M1 Turbo S speakers. It is a great setup that sounded fantastic for many years in my old house. However, in the new house, it sounded completely different. Most notably, the soundstage was compressed, the bass was severely lacking, and something was off about the lower midrange.  

I have one media wall in the new house with the one audio system for television, movies and music. In this house room treatment is not an option and speaker placement is limited. In researching room correction software, the Lyngdorf caught my attention. That gave me "the bug" and got me interested in streaming, which I had never incorporated, which got me looking at a number of all-in-one units. But Lyngdorf's Room Perfect put it in the top spot for  to try.

My initial thought was to use something like the Lyngdorf standalone for TV and movies, but output to the Pass amplifier for critical music listening. Based on recommendations in one of the posts on this site, I contacted Neal Van Berg at Sound Science, a Lyngdorf dealer. He was awesome to speak with, fully supported my idea and allowed me to do an in-home trial, and provided lots of help and insights along the way.

I set up the Lyngdorf and ran Room Perfect. It could not have been easier, and the difference it made blew my mind. I wasn't expecting it to be that profound. But what was more surprising to me is this. I had just assumed the Pass amp would sound much better than the TDAI for destination music listening. And I do prefer the Pass on some music - especially some favorite female vocals, for example. But the more I go back and forth between listening to Lyngdorf-->Pass vs. Lyngdorf on its own, the more I am enjoying the complete Lyngdorf sound. I would say that it is at least as enjoyable as the Pass on a lot if not most music I listen to.

I'm also having a blast with Tidal and Qobuz via Roon as well. In fact, I am listening to more music now than I have in a long time. And there is  nothing fatiguing about the TDAI's sound, which seems to be a common concern with Class D. I find the Lyngdorf sound to be quite open, natural and relaxed. And there are numerous ways it allows you to tweak your sound through voicings you can customize via parametric EQ.

Conclusion: I plan to keep the Pass amp for certain listening sessions, but if the Pass had to go away I could be very happy with the TDAI-3400 on its own. I am keeping it.
Hi all,

I am thinking of getting the TDAI-3400 as an all in one unit and plug in a USB stick or HDD and let it play my music files.  Is the unit processing powerful enough to make music selection / playing a smooth experience compared to Roon?

I am also look at the Naim Uniti Nova as another choice..

Thanks!
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I have the 2170 and ran a Denafrips Terminator into the high-end analog module and it was only a slight improvement over the internal DAC. I used a SMG i5 as a Roon core, Sonore UltraRendu, Denafrips GAIA DDC. So when I removed the Terminator I just went SPDIF from the DDC and also USB straight from the UltraRendu. Either way the Terminator sounded a little better but not really enough to justify its price tag.