Luxman PD121A - PD441


Hello all

New to the forum so a big thank you in advance and greetings!

I am looking to get my first luxman record player. 
I have been lurking around the internet and initially came upon the Thorens and then the Linn LP12. 

Then by chance came across the Luxman. And now I am hooked on its looks!

After some reading i got it down to the PD121A or the PD441

The 121A comes with an SME 3009 and the PD441 has nothing but I was thinking a Micro seiki 505X. Opinions on the 505X?

Also i read somewhere that the 121A is just a smaller version of the 441. Is this in any way true and to what extent?  What is missing from one to the other???

Look forward to reading some replies and getting into the thick of it all!

Chris

 

chridabs

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@lewrn

The 441 is the single arm version of the 444

As nice as the 444 looks I have no need or even space for such a monster haha

 

@dover I really like the look of the straight arms seiki made. A bit more expensive than the J arms/ A lot of the 121 come with the SME for some reason. I am not knowledgeable enough to speculate on technicalities but merely think thats its a good arm and looks nice??

 

Anu suggestions?

 

And are they easy to fit?? I have never had a player where I had to add an arm etc so dont know anything about the process itself. Especially on the luxman. 

 

 

@elliottbnewcombjr 

Damn! thats some USS Enterprise deck right there hahah

 

Really dont have the space to swing a cat currently. So no 444 for me

 

What do you think of the 505MKII j arms?? ANd do they take a standard SME headshell?

 

All new to me

 

 

 

@dover 

Do all the Seiki 505s use the din to rca connectors?

And is the MK3 a good purchase in terms of options for carts in your opinion? The 441 come with an TP-MT mount. The 505 MKIII should fit correct? Although it looks a little chunkier than the J arm one. Uggh Its so hard to find info on this arm!

Again, pretty new to all this stuff. Learning as I go. So dont want to make a major mistake in buying the wrong thing. 

 

Very much appreciated 

 

 

@dover 

 

Very much appreciate this info!

Any suggestions besides the Denon for an all round good cart for this arm?? If there is such a thing at a none crazy amount of money. 

And is there a place where all the arm boards can be seen with hole dimensions? I have been looking but cant seem to find any.

So if i buy a din to rca cable I imagine the cable quality will be a major factor on sound?

 

 

Thank you @dover 

 

After spending a good few hours back and fourth with a seller apparently the 505MKII or MKIII  will not fit on the TP-MT as its 30 mm (1.18 inches). I wouldn't know as I dont have the arm to hand hahahah 

So i have to look at the ones on the manual.  Unless i get another sized board. The 505 being one of them.

 

Looking at the Micro 505, saec, WE 308SX , FR, Stax, Ortofon, grace.

Currently reading up on the saec. 

 

Opinions?

Very much appreciated. 

 

 

Does that include the 505MKII and MKIII?? 

ugh i love being technical but when its all fresh its such a mine field.

What do you think of the seac 308SX? Bare in mind i am not filthy rich just yet but this was on of the options on the list.

 

Thank you again Dover

@pindac 

 

Thats a gorgeous table. Just cant do it in my current situation. Also being pretty fresh to all this I really want to get myself a starting point from which my obsession will take over my life hahah

thank you all! this is all amazing info and advice. 

 

I am leaning more towards the seac just to get me going. Not knowing what things are going to sound like I need a starting block from which to work out from.

But i continue to read etc just to bring me up to speed 

 

I will check out the links!

@dgarretson 

oh nice would love to see. 

 

Hmm not sure. DO you have to have it on an external site and then link in???

 

 

@elliottbnewcombjr

Appreciate the info. Probably saves a ton of server space having external links!

The pd441 is on the way. I got it relatively cheap (is there such a word?) I also managed to get a seac 308SX on the cheap (theres that imaginary word again).

 

I really did like the SME 3009 but just didnt find one at the time with the right price. Also the armboard that is coming with the 441 is Seac size and I didnt want to go and get another one just yet. I really did LOVE the micro seiki 505 MKIII straight arm. That thing is sexy. But the fixed head was a little hmmmm

SO just waiting out on delivery. Luckily all free returns etc just i case. 

Just need to get myself a cart. Currently looking at a Grace f8c (in another post i made)

And then a sound stage :( Just never ends. May post about a decent stage after i have done my daily youtube lurking.

 

Have to say this forum is awesome!

Will post a pic once i get things laid out in front of me!

@elliottbnewcombjr 

I managed to bag myself a stabaliser. The seller said it wasnt a MUST but worth getting. I figured if i wanted to sell the arm later it would be better to have the whole bits that go along with it. 

 

Do you think its worth getting the ceramic head? I dont rally know what the advantage would be??

 

Would you happen to have any links / pics of the procedure? I think I get.

 

@pindac 

 

Thanks Pindac I really appreciate the info and your knowledge. I ended up getting the PD441. Partly on looks and partly on reviews. I should get it in the next few days. The arm is coming soon after.

I just need to look at a stage 

I ended up getting a Grace f9 that I shall get upgraded once i know what i am actually listening to. 

Theres so much choice. :S

What would an ideal headshell be? Plastic? Carbon? Personally i didnt even know about the options. Again, just a freshy here. 

I got an F9 with a headshell. although I will probably get it upgraded.

 

I need some cables too (din) but everything i find seems to come from china. Not an issue for me but shipping times aere long. 

 

I may use bluejean cables as they did some stuff for me when i put together my home cinema. Unless anyone has some options ??

 

Thank you all !!

@elliottbnewcombjr 

 

I think I am going to the aluminum/magnesium as the  headshell with the f9 does not have azimuth adjustment.

 

What do you mean by 1 or 2 pin?

 

OH forget it. I see now. I would need a 2!

Thank you all so much

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