Luxman E-250 or Sutherland 20/20, or something else?


Moving on from my C48 preamp which had a very capable MC/MM phono section. In the $2,500 +- category narrowed it down to the Luxman and Sutherland 20/20. Didn’t know anything about either till I started researching. The Luxman has some cool design features and more flexibility than the Sutherland, IMO. I’m intrigued by their step up transformer for LO MC carts, which I have (Cadenza Black). Filter switches could be nice to have. The mono function seems intriguing but do I need it if I use a mono cart? However, very little user feedback online about this product. 

The Sutherland obviously has a solid reputation with Stereophile and Absolute Sound recommendations. Also, lots of user feedback that generally provide favorable reviews. Not too fond of having two wall warts for the base model so would probably have to spend the extra for the line power supply, so that puts the 20/20 about $400 more than the Luxman. Is the extra money worth it for the 20/20 over the Lux? Has any one tried either of these? Any other recommendations in this price range? Thanks in advance for your comments/questions. 
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Thanks for reminding me of the Upscale. I see where they have the Chinook. That’s pushing my budget a little but may be worth it indeed. I see they have a used Rogue tube phono stage. Anybody have any experience with the Rogue tube phono stage? Though, not tube, the Pathos looks very nicely built. Not much feedback on that phono stage. 
Thanks for the suggestions guys. If I’m now using a tube preamp/line stage won’t that instill at least some of that tubeness into the sound? 

I’ve heard of the Manley Chinook but the others are new to me. I was going to use Music Direct so I could exchange if I didn’t like the sound. Any other stores like that were I can find the products mentioned? 
Thanks for the suggestions. I will check out the RCM, Lehman, Ayre, AR and Manley. While we’re looking for a Phono stage any input on those known to work well with low output MC carts in my price range? I have a Cadenza Ortofon Black and always felt I’ve not gotten the best of that cart with the phono stages I’ve used which is the phono in my C 48, which has variable load settings is set at 60 db gain boost, and a Musical Surroundings Phononema. I had it in a Rega P9 and now using it on a 1200 G. 
How about the Parasound JC3+? Any thoughts on how this one compares to the other options suggested? 
I ended up going with a Herron 2, not 2A. I like there design approach, got a decent deal on it, so worth giving it a go. I like there does Spoke with Keith Herron about getting additional plugs. Supper nice guy. It’s nice knowing your product can be supported if need be. I’ll keep you all posted. Merry Christmas and happy holidays!
Hey 3EP, I’m sticking with the Cadeza Black. I have the 64 gain tube set up and Keith Herron thinks that’s enough for my cart. May have to play around with load settings to find the sweet spot. It’ll arrive next week. Anxious to hear how it will sound with my system.