Lumin T2 burn in time?

Hi xcool.I’m from LUMIN and I just wanted to add a little info.

Firstly LUMIN is manufactured by Pixel Magic Systems and is totally independent of any other company. The LUMIN App is our creation. Esoteric, TEAC and others licence the App from us to use with their streaming products.

iOS is our primary development platform. It is very stable on iPhone and iPad.
If instability exists, please try a restore - this cleanly installs all apps and can resolve some issues. The only performance requirement is regarding cache. LUMIN App is unique in it’s local storage of album artwork - for large libraries with high resolution artwork, this can require quite a bit of storage - most devices have large storage these days, but our App works back to older devices too (when storage might only be 16GB), so it’s worth bearing in mind.

Android is trickier, as there are far more variations between vendors and Android implementations. Testing is much harder, but we believe we have now reached a level of stability that should provide trouble-free playback for most. Again, the app is quite sophisticated in it’s interactions with the device, so clean systems are beneficial.

Because we use the OpenHome standard (UPnP AV) for streaming, for people who don’t get along with our app for playback you can also use other UPnP apps such as Kazoo, BubbleUPnP and others. Some are free.
LUMIN App is required for changing system settings and for firmware upgrades, but playback can be achieved with any of these apps.

Regarding burn-in. We get a broad spread of customer opinions on this, but we seem to have settled on advising about a week of 24/7 playing using a playlist on repeat containing a variety of music resolutions before critical analysis. Your amplifier doesn’t need to be on during this time, so it can be done silently overnight.
We have reports of improvements after even longer than that, but certainly the first couple of hundred hours is worthwhile.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for your comments xcool. I'm not entirely sure of our shuffle method, but I'll pass your comments on to the team.
I'll be honest - shuffle and repeat aren't part of my normal playing style, so I haven't observed different implementations.
Can I ask - on the Cambridge app - when you turn shuffle off, does the playlist go back to how it was before?

Firstly for the proper LUMIN support channels you are best emailing info@luminmusic.com as that gets distributed to the correct expert technician (which is definitely not me), however...

Hi bwguy - no compromise with setting it low.
Another way is to connect with RCA instead of XLR - that has the lower voltage anyway. If possible you could compare both.

Lumin should write that on the box! ;-)

Unfortunately, for every user who thinks it’s important info, there is another that thinks that we are perpetuating a lie as they don’t believe burn-in exists. We’ve even been told that it’s a ’con’ to get people to keep players longer so that they get used to them.
Your comparison with another player over time is a great illustration of why we say not to judge 'out-of-the-box'.

Thankfully our dealers are very good at communicating this when people buy players.

We have included some info on it in the manual here:
https://luminmusic.com/manual/running-in.html

Really glad you are enjoying your T2!

 

Hi tah800

Sorry to hear that you are finding the app difficult.
There are sections in the online manual to cover most things here: https://luminmusic.com/manual

A good starting point for what you describe above is here:
https://luminmusic.com/manual/app-introduction.html

The main thing to know is that LUMIN will only play tracks from its own playlist.
This is the list shown on the left on tablet, or in the middle screen on phone.
If something is playing on LUMIN, then it has been added to this playlist.

The icons at the bottom of it let you save, load and delete these LUMIN Playlists.

To get things into the playlist, you need to use the browse window first. Selecting them will move them into the Playlist. Depending on your settings, there are different ways that tracks move across. Some people requested that adding a track also adds the whole album, so there are options for that, as well as selecting multiple tracks. This is explained in more detail halfway down this page:
https://luminmusic.com/manual/app-browsing.html

If you use TIDAL playlists as your primary music organisation method, then you might prefer using TIDAL Connect (if you have a more recent LUMIN Model). It really depends if you also use locally stored music, or other streaming services and want to mix playlists.

If not using TIDAL Connect, read on.

You can add a whole TIDAL playlist to your LUMIN Playlist from within the app by browsing TIDAL > My Music > Playlists.
Then you can press and hold on the whole playlist to add it to the LUMIN Playlist.
Depending on which button you press it will add to the end/current position or replace the whole playlist.
The button icons are described on that link above too.

What isn't possible is that when you add tracks to a playlist in TIDAL, it will automatically add them to the LUMIN one - you'd have to navigate to and press and hold the playlist again.

For details on how to save/load playlists see here:
https://luminmusic.com/manual/app-playlist.html

The only thing I wasn't sure on was why a playlist might have disappeared. But perhaps it was just confusion between seeing the browse window and seeing the playlist window. As mentioned in the manual, getting an overview of the app is best done on tablet if possible.

I hope that's helped a bit, but hopefully a good read of the manual will help further.
Our support team don't monitor Audiogon, so if you need more direct help please use the support email address on our website.

I'll pass on your thoughts to the team.

@xcool What is it about the 'random' play that you don't like? That's the first time I've heard it criticised.
Can you describe a test that would be repeatable by the support team?

Thanks for the update - I'll forward this to the relevant team members.

@xcool I've heard back from the team that shuffle will already avoid repeating any tracks.
My simple tests show this to be the case.

Note that this gets reset if you tap any track or modify the playlist though. So perhaps you've noticed repeating because you've been trying to treat it like the Cambridge app and manually select tracks during playback.

My initial thought is that we don't want to randomise the actual list, but you are welcome to email us with a feature request and it will get reviewed by the full team.

@xcool My understanding is that it will shuffle again. i.e. that the order will not be the same second time around.