Low freq. from small drivers? Is it possible


Can you get really low freq. (lets say 30 and down) from a small driver (~6 inch? What is the relationship between driver size and frequency? Most speakers today have went away from a large base driver (10 inches or more). Have we really come that far or is it really a compermize?

Any recomendations for smaller floor standers with good bass?

Thanks,

Dr. Ken
drken

Showing 8 responses by michaelhwolff

It is absolutely possible even without a port.
Karl E. Schuemann and the ultimate monitor have accomplished this very very well, at least in my system.
http://www.theultimatemonitor.com/default2.htm

Best Regards,
Michael Wolff
Drew,

Here is the frequency response of the Ultimate Monitor from Karl Schuemann
Two way, with Scan Speak Symmetric Drive 6" and 1.1" drivers

Frequency Response
+/- 1dB: 70Hz - 18kHz
-3 dB, typical in-room: 45Hz - 20kHz
-3 dB, typical in-room, w/ BOMB: 25Hz - 20kHz

Believe when I say I hear what is written above.
Drew,,,
I'm just curious as to any speaker which is in the same price range that lists all those specifications that you say are missing on the Karl Schuemann site.
I have been searching and Wilson Watt at $20K plus does not,
Sonus Faber Stradavari does not, Von Schweikert does not,
Kharma does not. In fact, Karl gives a huge amount of information of how his speakers spec and perform.

Before pointing fingers and saying that "The specs don't
tell you enough to be useful", do your homework please.

cheers,
Michael
Sean, it is so good to see that you took time out of your busy schedule to go through the above posts and do your typical blessing and discreditdations. In the future, please try to wordsmith your responses to shorten them. Really it is much easier on the reader to not have to spend so much time reading just to realize that nothing constructive or informative was really said.
"this speaker lacked the spec's that one really needs to properly judge a speaker on paper." Absurd, statements like this belong in Audio Asylum under the NEWBIE section.
"Your level of involvement / personal emotions seem to be clouding your response on this one. Then again, that seems to be a common situation when it comes to products that you endorse." Dr. Sean I will try to make an attempt in the future to run my posts by you prior to posting, so that you fully understand their intent and meaning, Furthurmore, its good to see that you have kept track of all my personal enodrsements.

I want to highlight two of your statements. Here's the first one: "Drew: very nice posts that are based on both common sense and science. Those two factors rarely meet when it comes to audio and audio forums. I applaud the efforts that you put forth in your post. He just said that this speaker lacked the spec's that one really needs to properly judge a speaker on paper"

Here's the other statement that i think requires further commentary / clarification: "Other than that, this looks to be a very well designed speaker."

If there is not adequate published specs on the speaker, how can you say it is a well designed speaker? It would appear that your level of involvement / personal emotions seem to be clouding your response on this one. Then again, that seems to be a common situation when it comes to commenting on anything topic.
Thanks for turning what started to be a very friendly and uselful discussion on speakers into another pissing match of an unrelated topic. You did it here and you also managed to do it in the following thread on speakers.
Dear Mr. Speaker Designer - What I want...
Which by the way, no longer shows up on the discussion.

I for one,,, am sick of your flaming and have made a formal complaint again to Audiogon.
Thanks for all you have tried to do for me.
Cheers,
Michael
I apologize to Dr. Ken Schuemann because it is most unfortunate that such a great product has been clouded by this unnecessary rhetoric.
Thanks for that input Metralla, I am in complete agreement with that assesment from how they have perfomed in my system.
Qualifier-IMO