Jsawhitlock I think you made the best choice.
This post, 05-29-03: Psychicanimal, has to be the most ludicrous I have read.
Tom I am surprised you can resist a retort. I believe you stay silent so as to not dignify his comments with an answer.
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Psych, You have responded to THE WRONG post I thought it was obvious even to you, however I will now clarify this matter for you.
These are the Ridiculous statements made on 05-29-03:
Hint: my creature on steroids is neutral sounding...
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OK, some clarifications:
1) I have learned that phono stage is more important than TT. My next step is to send my phono preamp's outboard power supply to cryo treatment.
2) Digital doesn't sound that great because most people have mediocre power delivery/noise control measures. I have conquered noise in my system and digital is really something to be enjoyed. Analog is not superior in all respects. My goal is to keep analog and digital in balance...
3) Use digital as your reference for PRAT. Otherwise, you'll be prone to fall for a "magic" sound that has nothing to do with reality, especially with some moving coil designs. I find my modded Groovemaster MM cartridge more musically accurate than my Ortofon X5 MC.
4) My choice of TT is being marketed not to audiophiles, but to libraries and radio stations as a *transcription* TT. It is an accurate tool, not a spatial enhancer...
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But I do agree with this statement.
Viridian, you are totally accurate by stating that my "opinions offer a genuinely different hierarchy on what is of sonic,importance. Psychicanimal
If your opinions are different from what is sonicly, important. Why do you make them here as if they have some sonic importance?
After reading all of the above statements one can only conclude that you have never lived with a revealing Analog front-end, or you would not have these opinions.
Psych I am glad you listen to lp's, this is a good thing.
Now for the important question, how many Vertigo swirls do you have, and do you want to sell any.
Thanks
Ron
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Cool, I really like the Idea of you and Tom Getting together Franscisco, to settle this once and for all.
Tom you need to respond to this thread, I know you are reading this with glee.
I had to write that post 3 times to get it to the point it was kind and not bashing you.
So I will not try to prove you wrong, and start a pissing match.
About the first person thing, I believe that most anyone would come to the same conclusion, so I said what I meant.
The term "Revealing" was used to be polite as part of my gentler third revision.
About Vertigo swirls, I am surprised you do not understand. You stated you always had all the kick ass LP"s.
Look here to learn about great Treasure
http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/2727/vert.htm
If any one else has any swirls for sale, e-mail me please.
I have some swirls but still need alot.
Thanks
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Viridian, that Giant and Tull concert sounds like a winner!
Are you familuar with Gravy Train or May Blitz?
4yanx The crusaders Lp I received was 2nd crusade, it was their second lp
Twl,you old Hell-raiser, I also just won BOC Secret Treaties first ed Jap with obi N/M. This is not the reissue, rocks best 100 obi
Tom, if you like Secret Treaties do you have the first Captain Beyond LP? p.s.I have not forgot about the Audience lp.
RONI always rockin
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Zaikes, the deal with the most of the Vertigo stuff is that they are truly great musically that's why they fetch big money.
I personally will not pay the big bucks and have a few that have been reissued that are not swirls, but as you know the first UK editions will sound better. That's why I try to get those instead. I have stated before I am patient in my collecting and always try to get them cheap.
That's why I asked psych if he had any for sale. also tried to focus on our similarities,music and LP's
I do not collect for the sake of collecting I only keep LP's that I love to play, That reminds me I need to go through my collection and weed out those that I don't listen too or at least give them A spin.
A few of the guys from work come over to here my LP's(swirls included) and say its the best music you never heard. I really have lost interest with the modern music you know the stuff the kids listen to (30 and younger) for us, but I still crave some new tunes. So I look to the swirl, and other labels to fill the void. The world is a big place and I always found that the truly great music rarely made it on the radio. Let alone the radio stations I listened to as a kid growing up in Minneapolis.
what I am saying as a music lover Zaikesman you would love most of these lp's but remember they are progressive Rock and folk.
If you only like classical then it will not be your cup of tea. If you like Jethro Tull then you like progressive rock.
Zaikesman, maybe we should let TWL speak for himself about this hoo-ha |
Zaikesman,I don't have anything in my collection that I don't like, only to say I will not collect Items Just for the sake of collecting. I must like and play the lp's I own, aside from the sealed ones I have.
If I have some items that I don't play, I need to find out why ,and maybe sell them off to make money and room for some more swirls or Canterbury music. I do this constantly, but am due for a major critique.
Zaikesman, if you like Rock then I guarantee you would LOVE some of this music. Because it is some of the best rock ever produced. Don't dismiss this untill you experience it. It is my humble opinion that the masses don't appreicate real talent.
With a few acceptions of course.
Psych I have 3 Jade Warrior lp's all swirls, how come yours are not?
Tom, I knew there would be no shoot out, it would be fruitless anyway. Just got a old Crusaders double LP from Japan and it sounds Stunning with the HI FI mod in place. Thanks again.
well guys, peace and love.
happy listening,
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Twl The man, see, you start a thread about what do people at Agon listen to and all I got was a mostly classical and Jazz response .
I like Jazz but I knew most guys were like us.
Hey now, are those Boc lp's first editions I have them all up to imaginos only (Imaginos, Mirrors and Fire of unknown origin are not Japanese) on 1'st edition Sony label save for the first one that is on that reissued rock's best 100 series obi
About the Led Zeppelin have you seen and heard the Classic records reissues I got rid of my Japs and bought all of the Classic records new reissues on 180 gram from Red Trumpet,nice very nice.
Most all of my Beatles are on the Eas series, Abby road is the pro use series. I also have Hard days night on that Mono red wax reissue eas 7700 would love to get some of those first ed red wax ones. But for now I have my spending limits
All my Pink Floyd is Jap (not old the red wax) and DSOTM is the pro use one of course.
My supertramp items are those Canadian A&M issued Japan pressings
I have the MFSL and the Canadian one of crime of the century and I cannot tell the deference.
My doors are either Japanese or DCC
have you got The Tull Aqualung DCC? if you don't get it
as you know the Jap Tull stuff is way to expensive right now, "A passion play" is up for bid for $138.00 with 1 bidder
I to have all the Jeff Beck on JPN pressings
I also have the first 4 Grand funk first ed.Japan/obi
ya man, I to have Captain Beyond 3D mint/and a Japan pressing of s/t & dawn explosion mint/obi and a domestic copy of Sufficiently Breathless I bought a promo copy but it was beat. I gave that one away. I have a friend who takes most of my junk lp's because I can't bear to through any away.
All my Stones, ELP,Yes,Roxy music,Hendrix,Paul mccartny, Steeley Dan,ZZ top,are ALL on JAPAN vinyl with obi.
Do you have that 8 Lp purple paisley velvet Hendrix 180 gram Box? It is great, You will not play anything else after you get it.
I have 8 Kinks lp's and school boys in disgrace is my favorite. YA!!
And many many more, I posted a link to the vertigo swirls what did you think? This is my latest passion.
Ron
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4yanx,come on let me have it hammer me. I would love to hear what you have. Tom and I could have taken this banter off Agon and done it via personal e-mail but we chose to share some of our interests with each other as well as the rest of you. It was very enlightening to hear of Toms love for Captain Beyond one of my favorites. I even have The Jap cd for my car. come on 4yanks embarrass me please!
You know those BOC Japanese are hard to find. I was surprised Tom Had so many. I thought I was the only one collecting them,really
well not really.
Ron
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Zaikesman,Wow you are quite the collector. I don't do 45's I have always's said you can't have it all, and I do not try.
About the Crusaders you are quite the Guru, I don't know anything about the Jazz crusaders only that Joe and Wayne must have been part of the band. Was I incorrect to state that 2nd Crusade was "The Crusaders" 2nd lp?
Yes, I have unsung Heroes first ed on blue thumb/N/M. I bought it new many years ago. I also have Chain reaction , Southern comfort, and Scratch all on blue thumb. I have played them many times. In fact after I finish this I am going to spin some Southern Comfort.
About the Kinks, I sold off my older items last year on ebay The only 2 older ones remaining is The Kink Kontroversy, but it is on a PYE 1965 UK mono pressing / MINT and The Kink Kronikles 1972 brown reprise USA press/ N/M
I need to listen to those as well been a while, to many swirls.
Why are you a Dork for having a Japanese unsung Heroes LP or was that a joke or something?
I will checkout the threads tomorrow and get back to you
bye for now.
Ron
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Tom you lucky!@#$%^&* how did you get that Jap copy of schools boys. I have never seen one or you would have had a bidding war but anyway you made me laugh with that get with the program comment. Yes get some swirls get gravy train and may blitz for starters. If you don't want to spend the big bucks for the UK swirl you can get the reissue on the Korean Si Wan Label.
The May blitz was also issued on the paramount label and is less $ as well. If you like fuzz get some Dragonfly. I cannot stay seated when I play that Lp. The first edition goes for big bucks but it has been
reissued on the Eroe Progressivo label EPLP004, that's the one I have.
This talk of quality pressings is still about the sound and how it can be better.
4yanx I belive the comment about the 4th pressing of Led Zep 4 was a Joke, but the info about the Classic records new reissues was not. If you don't have any, do yourself a big favor, get one and see what I am talking about.
Dude, I liked that Captain Beyond comment when you said Dancing madly backwards the song started in my head.
Also Joni Mitchell court and spark DCC is great as well.
This talk about one-upmanship that some of you are afraid of. I do not understand it. To me if you have the Jap copy of the white lp first ed on red wax. That says to me you have a great love of that Lp and would stop at nothing to get the best possible recording. Because that is what you would have. Some may buy if for some kind of Trophy. Well If I had the cash you never know I might have a different opinion. For now my eas copy will have to do.
There is still to many lp's to get, and to spend $200.00 on 1 LP.
Zaikes, This pressing hound thing, Tom and I are pressings hounds, you know why, better sound. I hear more music,some times a lot more. Its the source remember,but its hard to balance the Quantity/Quality thing.
I think what Tom is talking about is what he has been practicing lately and I have not. When someone says something well out of the mainstream of thinking, he doesn't make any comments. So he will not start an argument about nothing that has no resolution anyway.
is this it TWL?
I don't think I can be a Sycophant (I had to look that one up)
Ron, a team player
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TOM How about this one? A Japanese Steely Dan "Can't Buy a Thrill" mint with obi. I love that one.
I said earlier that I had ALL the Steely dan on Jap pressings well that was Just to save time and space and not to offend 4yanks with some one-upmanship.
To clarify I have all the Steely Dan On Jap With 2000 yen OBI on the black rainbow MCA label MINT
save in accept "Gaucho" which is that MCA Half-speed, Pretzel logic/Canada pressing as for "Can't Buy a Thrill" I bought a new 180 gram pressing its on a black ABC label.I love that one. IT is a first rate pressing and I think limited production. well now days I think they are all limited to some extent. I have a Donald Fagen "The Nightfly" Japanese PROMO with OBI MINT you got to Love that one!!
Have you bought any of those new Columbia 180 gram reissues DON'T they such bad.
How did I do answering 4yanks nasty old post on that other turntable Thread, about the Aurora?
I was laughing my self to death reading my own post!
well I thought it was funny
your brother in the analog front.
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06-04-03: Twl,I was referring to the other thread where there were some strong words exchanged about the comparison between the Nottinghams and the Aurora. I felt it was better if we didn't so strongly attack each other's tables. In retrospect, it would have been better if I had kept my mouth shut.
No, Tom you were right, but only one person used some strong words,and it was not me.
I Think it is wise to not bash each other and our equipment.
in our posts.
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