Looking to Develop A Short List of Amplifier Candidates For A Pair Of JBL 4367 Speakers


Over a number of years I have owned JBL 4365 and eventually moved on from them. I tried a pair of Martin Longan CLX ART, but my room was not well suited for them. A failed experiment with a lot of lost hours in it. I ended up coming home to JBL and acquiring a pair of 4367.

They are a lovely speaker and are well suited for my 15' by 19' by 8' room. Controlled directivity from the horn augmented by minimal room acoustic panels and a light touch with the Trinov DSP system works for me.

The amplifiers I have been using are a pair of Classe Omega monoblocks. But the reality is they are massive, are way too much power for a pair of 94 db efficient speakers, cannot be moved by me alone, and are just wasted in this application. So they have been sold and are pending pick up when the new owner gets back from vacation.

So I am developing a short list of amplifiers. Going through the whole gamut, tube, solid state, and Class D. On the 4365 I once tried a pair of Audio Mirror Reflections since in my past I was a user of Single Ended Triode amps. But even with "larger" SET power, the woofers on the 4365 were not well controlled at all. Another failed experiment. With the 4365 I had used a PS Audio BHK250 with decent results, a pair of AVM Audio Amp Essential monoblocks with excellent results, and a H20 Audio 250 Signature Class D amp with interesting results. The AVM and Classe have provided the best results so far.

So the question is, are there Class D amplifiers that meet the sound quality requirements these days. I have seen some amps using a Hypex or Purfi module with a tube front end. Also have heard the latest generation Orchard monoblocks are worth looking at. Anyone have any other candidates, or thoughts?

In the past JBL was known to mate well with tube amplification. But I imagine this is going to have to be push/pull. In the past I have owned Dynaco and then Quicksilver before I went to explore the world of SET amplfiers. When I bought the 4365 I had thought they were going to be agood match with my Electraprint amplifier, but I was completely wrong on that one. What power level would I have to reach with tube amplification?

Finally in terms of solid state, the choices are huge. I know McIntosh was often a favored pairing, but I have never been a fan of the brand. I wonder about some of the solid state Conrad Johnson offerings, but I think they may be getting long in the tooth these days. I have thought about BAT. I actually have a First Watt F7 here that is my back up amp and it runs them better than a person would have imagined. The latest generation of AVM is now a hybrid, and ownership by Burmester might be a good thing, I would like to think I could get service in the US for them.

Any thoughts or experiences you want to pass along would be greatly appreciated.

neonknight

Thanks for sharing the feedback you’ve received—there’s a solid mix of personal experience, enthusiasm, and varying levels of technical insight in the responses. Below is a critique of each post, offering perspective on what is valuable, what may need deeper examination, and how useful the suggestion is for your JBL 4367 application:

 


 

1. hbarrel — Class D Audio GAN Monoblocks

 

Summary: Recommends trying Class D Audio GAN monoblocks with a trial period. Reports initial improvement after 30 hours of play.

 

Critique:

 

  • Pros: Suggests a low-risk audition approach and firsthand experience with burn-in characteristics.

  • Cons: Class D Audio’s GAN monoblocks are lower-tier compared to brands like Atma-Sphere, Orchard, or AGD. While they may be good value, they’re not boutique or refined in the same way as the amps you’ve historically preferred (Classe, AVM).

  • Verdict: Worth testing for curiosity’s sake, but may not match your reference expectations long-term.

 


 

2. ditusa — Vinnie Rossi

 

Summary: Brief mention of Vinnie Rossi as a potential choice.

 

Critique:

 

  • Pros: Vinnie Rossi’s hybrid designs (especially the L2i Signature integrated or Brama) are exceptional performers—liquid, open, and dynamic with tube input stages and MOSFET outputs.

  • Cons: The suggestion is too brief and lacks context (e.g., power output, synergy with JBL, price).

  • Verdict: A strong contender worth exploring seriously. Vinnie Rossi hybrid designs could be perfect for the 4367—definitely merits more research.

 


 

3. mattmiller — McIntosh MC275 or High-Power Solid State

 

Summary: Recommends the MC275 tube amp or going big with 400W+ solid-state monoblocks.

 

Critique:

 

  • Pros: Acknowledges that the JBL 4367 is easy to drive and emphasizes the dynamic benefits of higher power.

  • Cons: The MC275 (75W) is arguably underpowered to fully control the 15” woofer unless you’re listening at moderate levels. The “just get 400W monoblocks” approach lacks nuance—more power isn’t always better, especially with horns.

  • Verdict: While the MC275 is classic and well-liked, its synergy depends on your room and preferred SPLs. Solid-state with 200–300W is plenty for 94 dB efficiency; going higher could sacrifice finesse for brute force.

 


 

4. stereo5 — McIntosh MC302 with GE Triton Refs

 

Summary: Shares personal success with a 300W McIntosh amp on 94 dB speakers.

 

Critique:

 

  • Pros: Valid anecdote about the sonic benefits of moving from lower to higher wattage.

  • Cons: GE Triton Refs have powered subwoofers and a different tonal profile than JBL 4367s. Not a directly transferable comparison. Also, this user’s tone leans toward absolutism.

  • Verdict: Not a direct match in terms of speaker design and synergy, but the benefit of quality high-powered SS amplification is still a valid takeaway.

 


 

5. larrybemm — Audio Research GS150 with Vandersteen 5s

 

Summary: Enthusiastic endorsement of the GS150 driving Vandy 5s, paired with CAT SL1.

 

Critique:

 

  • Pros: ARC GS150 is a very refined tube amp with power to handle complex loads. CAT preamp is excellent. Vandersteen 5s are similarly revealing speakers, so this could translate well.

  • Cons: Limited detail on the match with JBL specifically.

  • Verdict: The GS150 and similar ARC tube designs are worth shortlisting for your application. They offer high current, control, and harmonic richness—ideal for 4367s.

 


 

6. cfarrow — ARC Ref 110 or 160, Levinson

 

Summary: Used Levinson amps with JBLs. Recommends ARC Ref 160 or 110 with Winged C 6550s.

 

Critique:

 

  • Pros: Useful pairing insights; mentions tube rolling with the Ref 110 to shape tone. ARC Ref series is known for combining precision and musicality.

  • Cons: ARC Ref 110 is an older design; good value used, but might require tube replacement and maintenance.

  • Verdict: A knowledgeable post—Ref 160M/S especially should be on your radar. Levinson could be too dry for some, but it offers great control.

 


 

7. fthompson251 — Coda No. 8 or 16

 

Summary: Suggests the Coda No. 8 or 16 as under-the-radar high-quality amps.

 

Critique:

 

  • Pros: Excellent suggestion. Coda is known for smooth, Class A sound in early watts with massive current capability. Neutral, clean, dynamic.

  • Cons: May lack the tube-like romanticism if that’s part of your tonal preference.

  • Verdict: A superb option for your speakers—quiet, effortless, transparent. A No. 8 would be more than sufficient in your room.

 


 

8. charles007100 — First Watt SIT-4/SIT-5

 

Summary: Likes his First Watt SIT-4 with JBLs; recommends SIT-5 if available.

 

Critique:

 

  • Pros: Direct experience with your speaker model; First Watt synergy is real for horn lovers.

  • Cons: The SIT-5 is not widely available yet; SIT amps have low power output and are best for moderate SPL or smaller rooms.

  • Verdict: If you listen at moderate levels, a SIT amp could provide incredible tonal realism and imaging. You already own the F7, so this is a natural extension.

 


 

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Overall Takeaways

Poster

Strength of Recommendation

Critique Summary

hbarrel

🟠 Moderate

Good value suggestion, but not in line with your prior reference-level amps

ditusa

🟢 Strong

Underrated hybrid gear (Vinnie Rossi) that suits your goals—research further

mattmiller

⚪ Mixed

Power emphasis valid, but lacks nuance in recommendation

stereo5

⚪ Mixed

Not an ideal comparison speaker-wise, but power observations are reasonable

larrybemm

🟢 Strong

ARC GS150 is a solid tube recommendation, and CAT is world-class

cfarrow

🟢 Strong

Levinson and ARC Ref 110 are proven combos with JBL—good suggestions

fthompson251

🟢 Strong

Coda No. 8/16 offers huge value and performance—shortlist this one

charles007100

🟢 Strong (niche)

If you love the First Watt sound, SIT amps are golden—just know the limits

 


Would you like me to synthesize this into a refined shortlist or a side-by-side matrix including your past amps and how these compare in control, warmth, refinement, and synergy with the JBL 4367?

You might consider a Bryston 3B3 or 4B3. Plenty of clean power, great woofer control, and under 45 lbs. That would be my choice. 

I know this won't sit well on this forum, but it's quite amazing how AI can help us audiophiles.  I'm curious to know how accurate it is at synergy.  

It would be great is Audiogon had their own AI chatbot with the entire history of these posts to use in its response.

Usually one of the problems with efficient speakers is the gain in the amps, you have to much gain so the preamp has no room to work with.  I had to "build " my own amps since the output from a modern dac or phonostage is very high so I would like to state that you shouldn't blame the amps of being to powerful ( you rarely have to much power) it's how you treat the throttle. 

Back on the subject I'm +32 or whatever on the first watt bandwagon 😁

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