Looking for wider soundstage


My system consists of:

parasound a21+ amp for LF

rogue st 100 dark for HF

Aurender  n10

schiit Yggy dac

don sachs 2 preamp

legacy signature se speakers 

Looking for wider soundstage  room is not treated but it’s not bad and I have moved speakers around  Thanks for any advice  I have believed my amps could be better but not sure  thanks in advance 

 

backdoor

Showing 6 responses by mijostyn

@tweak1 , I think you need your hearing checked. I do not think Magenpan made a 3.4. I remember 3.6's and 3.7's but not 3.4's. Emerald Physics makes a 3.4. It looks one step better than a computer loudspeaker, a big computer loudspeaker. I cringe to think of a 15 inch midrange driver. Keep saving. 

 

@backdoor , as everything Italian the Sonus Faber speakers are very stylish in a good way. The craftsmanship is meticulous. I have not seen a Legacy speaker up close so I really should not comment but I tend not to like air motion transformers. 

In your situation, without a better room, it would not matter what speaker you are using. Even with 8 foot tall dipoles which are very directional you would still have problems. I just spent $3K removing a window from my listening room because it was f-ing things up and I use 8 foot tall dipoles.

@tweak1 , While dipoles do solve some room issues as dynamic speaker they cause more trouble than good. Dipoles need to be tall panels either planar magnetics or electrostatic. The point is that you need the speaker to radiate in the same pattern throughout the frequency range or you get into all sorts of amplitude variations with distance. 

@backdoor , for dynamic loudspeakers worth the money I suggest Sonus Faber. 

@backdoor , It is, but I have no idea what you will accept as reasonable performance. You might be perfectly happy with a system I would deem sub par. But you have spent a lot of money already so my guess is it is important to you. If it is imaging you want the first thing you have to provide your system is a symmetrical environment. Stereo is all about symmetry. If one channel differs from the other in any way the image is chipped away at depending on the severity of the infractions and in the situation I see in your picture they are legion. 

In a residential situation with the size rooms we normally have you want a flat front wall and two clean corners That extend for at least 6 feet in front of the speakers This should be on the short wall of the room. Both speakers see a corner and the listening position will be somewhere in the middle of the room away from the back wall. If you use the long wall the listening position will be up against the opposite long wall which will really create amplitude problems. With the type of speakers you have you will need sound absorption on the front wall, side walls and ceiling. The speakers need to see an exact mirror image environment. From there if you want SOTA performance it takes a little digital signal processing which scares the h-ll out of the analog crowd. Suites me. It keeps the price of digital processors down. 

I only mean to help and do not want to see you wasting money chasing a faulty situation that might be able to improve a little but still will never approach the performance it should, the performance you expect. 

@backdoor , I had a look at your pictures and I hate to bring you bad news but even with digital signal processing you are never going to get a decent image with your system as it is set up. It breaks almost every tenant you can imagine. It is fine for everyone's background music pleasure but that is about it. Your system needs a home that is more in keeping with it's intent. No amount of room treatment and expense is going to change this. Your next mission is to find a more appropriate home for it either in your house or eventually another if it is that important to you.