Looking for vintage Quad ESL's - or my wife thinks a "shrink" becase she says I'm crazy!


Been out of the hi-fi ’scene’ since the early 80’s. My last system was a pair of Quad ESL-57’s with a Quad 303 amp, Hafler DH101 pre-amp (kit I built) and a Linn LP-12 and Grace tonearm (can’t remember what cartridge I had). I bought all of it for a song back then. The speakers were $300 (nobody knew what they were or what they were worth), I got the LP12 for $500 (salesman accommodation). The power amp and pre-amp were $200 combined. Oh yeah, I worked at a hi-fi store in Chapel Hill NC which explains some of the deals I got. Sold *everything* to pay for a down payment on a trailer as I had just gotten married. Skip 35 years, raised three kids, put them all through college, worked as a software engineer until retiring. Now I want to get back into my original passion. I can’t afford to buy new stuff, the price has gone ballistic. So, I’m beginning again to put together a system to listen to my music on. I still have my Hafler pre-amp which I will use if it still works until I can get something better. I just bought two 125 watt monoblock tube amplifier kits from Bob Latino (www.tubes4hifi.com). I love building things and am very handy with a soldering iron! Also, I always loved the sound of tubes.

Speakers...That’s where I need help. I *really* loved the way my old Quad ESL-57’s sounded. When I was 15 (I’m now 66) my friends dad had stacked Quad ESL-57’s and I swear I’ve NEVER heard anything as good since then! That’s why I’m really wanting to go back to electrostatic speakers. I’ve auditioned some of the Martin Logan stuff at Best Buy. I’m astounded that they are distributed in that chain..I also was flabbergasted that McIntosh was sold there too. Regardless, the salespeople don’t know what to demonstrate let alone setup up quality hifi equipment. They sounded terrible. Even after listening to the ML speakers on several different occasions I concluded I don’t like the way they sound. I still think a proper pair of Quad’s is the way to go. The problem is finding a pair! I’ve discovered Electrostatic Solutions LTD and if I get a decent looking pair intend to have them rebuilt there. I’m guessing after I find a pair and get them refurbished I’ll be spending between $4K and $5K. Unless I find a great deal on a pair that is already up to snuff.

DAC - I never knew what a DAC was until recently but conclude that I need one since I will be listening to music streaming from my iPhone, my Mac Mini etc. I feel really ignorant on what kind of DAC I need. I’ve noticed that some of them can double as a pre-amp too and hook directly up my power amps. That might be good for a temporary solution until I can get a proper preamp. Still, DAC’s can range from $500 - $15K. I have no idea what features I need or whether the low end DAC’s are even worth it.

I really need some suggestions. If I had the money I’d go to an audiophile salon and buy my equipment proper. But I don’t so I have to get the best equipment I can with my limited resources. I’m not exactly poor, but I could never justify to my wife spending $20K on audio equipment. Dang, I looked into getting another Linn Sondek LP12. The price is sky high compared to my ’82 version although there are differences between the basic model I had in 1982 and what they’re producing now. Still...I may need to wait on a turntable until I get speakers and a DAC.

I feel overcome with choices! New gear, used gear, electrostatic speakers, conventional speakers... Maybe my wife is right. I need some Valium and a good shrink!!

Mark in Big Stone Gap VA

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I live in an apartment so my Quad 57's remain in storage until I can free up some more space! I bought my first pair in 1982 and kept them in use for 19 years (until I stupidly sold them!). The amplifier I used for all that time was the Bedini 25/25 (still have it!).
In my collection I have: Quad 57's (two pairs), Quad 303 (upgraded), Hafler 101, Linn Sondek/Grace 707. These components (old as they may be!) put together make a great-sounding system!   So I recommend buying a pair of Quad's in good condition (may not need any repair) and a 303 (ditto) as a start.              Next add a signal source (analog or digital) and a preamp (the Hafler 101 is fine and easily modded). For LP's I recommend a Pioneer PLX1000 and a Denon 103R mc cartridge (I have and use this combination). Digital source can be an Oppo 105 (no need for an expensive DAC!). All of the above equipment can be bought at a quite reasonable price (no need to spend many kilobucks!). Regarding interconnects and speaker wire: from my long experience (40+ years) the cheap stuff sounds no different than the expensive stuff (contrary to untutored belief!). So beware of people touting the benefits of fancy and expensive wire, particularly power cords!
Your Bob Latino tube amps would be a mite too powerful for the 57's - unless some protection circuitry was added. No more than 20 volts peak was the factory recommendation! A Dynaco ST70 would be ideal - pp EL34's with 35 watts output. I have two (both modded). 
If you are intent on using the Latino amps then the later Quad 988 or 989's would be a better choice, as they already have protection circuitry!
OTL means "output transformer less"  - NO output transformer for the tubes! These are the rarest and most problematic of tube amps! Atmasphere (Ralph Karsten) makes some excellent ones! They can drive Quads quite well!      I myself still own a pair of Julius Futterman H3AA's and a Harvard Music H3. They also can drive Quads and KLH Nines very well!
An amp greater than 30 watts can be used with the 57's as long as you are careful with the volume control and loudness level! Otherwise stick to a 303 or a Bedini 25/25 (both of which I own).    For tubes a Dynaco ST70 (easily nodded!) is a great match (got two!).         And among new SS amps the First Watt F5 and clones (got one!) will do well!
I recommend the Oppo 105 as a digital player for all formats (that sounds excellent).