Looking for more detail in a speaker


Kind of a long first post but needed the space to set up my situation. 
I decided to do something about my speaker situation after demoing a pair of B&W 805d’s. One of the tracks played was Sympathy for the Devil. At the beginning of the song, a percussion instrument, either a guiro or cabasa, just popped out at me on the left speaker. I’ve heard that song a million times but never noticed that percussion instrument coming at me like that. I came home and played the track through my system, through my streamer and turntable. My speakers are Golden Ear Triton One’s. That same presentation just isn’t there like with those 805’s.
The GET1’s are certainly decent speakers; are they not designed for this type of detailed presentation? Is it my room? My listening room is a odd shaped man attic with a 3.5’ wall on one side with an 8’ wall on the other side peaking a 9’ in the middle. My listening position is about 17’ from the speakers.  I’m sure the room is acoustically challenged. Also, I have a long speaker wire run, like 40’. Does that contribute to the lack of detail? I figured out a way to trim about 15’ of speaker wire length from each run and plan to do that ASAP. I’m using AudioQuest construction rated wire. I believe they’re 14 gauge.
So, why not buy the 805’s? I’ve thought seriously about them but concerned they’ll be kind of small for my room. Seems like I need floor standers. I’d like to keep any replacement speakers at $4k. I have an opportunity to pick up a pair of Dynaudio S5.4s for $4k but haven’t made a move in them yet. 
Any suggestions on a speaker selection or adjustments to my room or speaker wire are appreciated. To sum it up, I’m looking for more instrument detail with good sound staging either by making tweaks to my current set up or getting another flavor of speakers. Thx. 
bfoura

Showing 2 responses by loudspeaker77

Hi, The Triton One's are really quite linear, in fact almost ruler flat from 100Hz to 10 kHz. There is a slight rise above 10 kHz. Have a look at the measurements in the Stereophile review. Clearly much more linear than the B&W. In terms of any comments regarding accentuated bass, this really depends on where the bass level is set on the back of the speakers. The Triton Ones have a powered bass section with a level control. I find it amusing when people comment on the sound of my speakers that have a powered bass section with a level control as having too much bass, as there is a level control which allows them to be properly tuned for both the room as well as personal taste, which does vary greatly. Too much bass, too dark, turn it down.
   However set up is always important. The speakers are designed to be flat on axis, and should be set up toe'd in fully and pointed directly at the center listening position. This is very important in terms of realizing the full detail potential, as well as the best imaging and the biggest sweet spot. In the case of what is being described here, 40 feet of in-wall grade speaker wire will definitely degrade things detail-wise and in many other ways as well. Also, the nature of the program source as well as the decoding DAC. I don't know all the specifics but the dealer may have been using a hi-res version, or a better one than you have at home. Also the Mytek is probably a better DAC. Sitting 20 feet away from the speakers vs 8 feet will definitely degrade things as well as let the room get more involved. I think that the Gryphon may be somewhat more detailed than the Mc, however I don't think that is the major factor at play: toe-in, listening distance, 40 feet of install grade speaker wire and program material/DAC. Of course, each to his own. The B&Ws are certainly excellent speakers, but if you look at the response graphs, clearly not nearly as linear as the Triton Ones. Here personal preference gets involved, however properly set up the Triton Ones are very linear, very smooth, very natural and very musical. Sandy Gross
Hi Bfoura, Yes it is me, all day every day. Just trying to help. Not sure about your DAC. The bigger question is your streaming service and the quality of what they are using and putting out. I have a feeling the dealer was using hi res files. And there is a big difference between Spotify and Qobuz. Nearfield will give you a lot more detail than farfield, also helps to dial out room effects. Also, I assume that you are listening seated. I think you will find a big improvement with the toe in. Sandy