Looking for a vinylesk sounding DAC


I cannot say I wasn’t satisfied with my system.

Laptop (Quobuz Studio) - > Schiit Bifrost 2 - > Ocellia Reference RCA - > Werner Acoustics, Selene (active tube preamp using two VT-231 from RCA) - > passive preamp - > Ocellia Reference RCA - > First Watt F6 dual mono custom built - > HEDD Audio’s "Heddphone" / Hifiman HE 4

From the beginning I started to built it I had a quite concrete idea of what it should sound like in the end: vinylesk without using vinyl. It took me a while to get there and now I really thought I got it: Due to the F6 the outcome is brutally powerful and incredibly fast while the tube stage adds lots of body, depth and a rich organic undertone. Finally the RCA’s from Ocellia were adding the fine raffinement and a nice holographic soundstage. Nothing smears, in just every situation everything stays transparent, well controlled/articulated and the separation is just excellent.

BUT when listening to streamed vinyl I still feel the need for action - I just want EVERY track from quobuz to sound like this. Please take just some seconds and listen to this:

https://musicandvinyl.blogspot.com/2020/08/haruomi-hosono-from-aegean-sea.html?m=1

There is just MORE elasticity, MORE tonal density, MORE plankton, MORE concentration to the point, MORE light-footedness and MORE palpability (compared to a "disdainful" quobuz stream). Do you know what I mean?

I still think and hope a new dac could be the nirvana-solution. But which one would manage the job to sound just like vinyl (99% would be ok...)?

Happy to hear your suggestions!
barrista0611

Showing 2 responses by nekoaudio

@barrista0611 I'll throw out a plug for my Neko Audio D100 Mk2 DAC, as sounding close to an analog setup. It's primarily due to the passive analog output stage which uses output transformers.
@barrista0611 well, a caveat with the D100 Mk2 and some other DACs with transformer-based analog output stages is that they will have a higher output impedance. So matching one with a passive preamp may be less than ideal if the preamp input impedance is too low or if there is a lot of fluctuation in the input impedance by frequency. Some passive preamps have changing input impedance by volume, while others do not.

But primarily a transformer-based output adds some warmth (i.e. distortion), usually to a slightly greater degree in the lower frequencies versus the mid-range or treble, without the negatives commonly associated with a NOS design like rolled-off treble or aliasing artifacts or the higher distortion associated with a tube design.

There’s decent set of measurements posted for the D100 Mk2 on the Neko Audio website, and many reviews can be found online.

Lumin and Linn also use output transformers in the analog output stage of their higher-end models.