Looking For 90% of the performane of the super expensive cables for much less money


I currently have a system which consists of Vandersteen 5A's, THor Audio TP-150 tubed monoblocks, Thor Line Stage and Thor phono stage, Marantz SACD player SA-114 and will take delivery of the VPI Prime Scout with a Sumiko EVOS 3 Cartridge. I am currently using LAT International Speaker Cables, Power Cords and Interconnects. (They are no longer in business). I am in immediate  need of turntable cables and would like to update my new speaker cables and interconnects. Not willing to spend thousands on this upgrade. Seeking to capture as much of the "magic" that the super expensive cables deliver but at a more realistic price point. I understand that I have really good quality equipment, but at this stage of my life cannot allocate mega dollars towards cables.
 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 
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Showing 8 responses by glupson

"Gloopus interruptus!

Augustus Gloop, Augustus Gloop
The great big greedy nincompoop
Augustus Gloop, so big and vile
So greedy, foul, and infantile.…"
Infantile! That is the word we have been looking for. Infantile.
fleschler,
"I am surprised that you have authoritatively stated..."

Huh, are you that new here? You'd better get used to lots of authorities in these waters.
I guess, with this thread, we’ve reached the bottom, and we have to stop, and that is what's bothering us.

(No lyricist worth anything would be caught alive admitting to have been involved with the creation above so, this time, I take ownership and responsibility)
analogluvr,

"How does a cable get outdated🙄, If it conducted well 30 years ago doesn’t it conduct well now?"
I was about to ask exactly those two sentences yesterday. I decided to skip them, at least in public.

Expensive products should improve whatever they are placed on/with. Including bicycle wheels, clothes, and cables. Better wheels will make your bicycle lighter, etc. Dress in something really nice/expensive and you will look better. Why would not you expect improvement from cables even in lower-priced systems? If they really work as advertised.

Unless you are King Louie. He’s reached the top, and he had to stop, and that’s what’s bothering him.

EDIT: Oooops, not to end up accused of plagiarism like celander did not so long ago, above King Louie reference is almost identical and was taken from "I Wanna Be Like You" song from the original Jungle Book movie. I do not claim I wrote it myself, although I did change "I’ to "he" and "me" to "him".
dynaquest4,

I have also mentioned elsewhere on Audiogon that many may buy cables because of the looks, but my idea has not been noticed. Oh well, maybe some day...

I admit that I bought a pair of XLR interconnects just so they look "better" when placed where I do not even see them. Going from mid $10s to a few hundred. I accepted it was for the looks and it was worth to me on that level. The difference in the price was, to me, acceptable for that kind of game. As far as sound goes, if anything I would say it is "worse", but would not firmly claim that. The bad part was convenience. Pictures did not tell me that cables are not as flexible as the old ones.
I am not saying that conductive liquid does not work, maybe even better than our usual hard metal cables. I have no experience and superficially see the reason for it being reasonable (I have not given it deeper thought). Maybe they are that leap that should shut up all the cable non-believers. I truly hope so.

However, in the field of Audiophilia, anything that has properties that may approach those of oil will be fiercely debated. It must be an annoying uphill battle for the manufacturers.
gosta,

"Someone got a cable that separates Dolly, Emmy and Linda clearly when they sing together?"
Do you really want that?

Also, what is the deal with having each instrument of an orchestra separate? Aren’t they playing together exactly for that reason? To play together and all the sounds merging?

As far as cheap cables go, Monster Cable, more length than three systems need, $20-30 per spool at the end of the previous century, still work just fine. If you do not obsess over it. They may do just fine when compared to more expensive cables, too, but I have not had a chance. It helps to have low expectations.