Longer Power Cords Sound better?

That's right, shorter is never automatically better, it does depend on the competence and integrity of the PC design.

All being equal however, with a competently designed power cord, his point is that yes, longer is _always_ better, and he went fairly deep into the physics of the equation and reasons for that. Considering that the only other technical rebuttal in this thread relates to male anatomy and sexual positions/mockery, I'd say his explanation is fairly in depth and well elucidated. As was his other post in that AA thread, circa 2000.

Of course, you're welcome to your opinion and in your context, it may well be true.

Grant
Shunyata Research

Ahh, men with lots in common. Can't beat it.

:-)

>>>I firmly believe in trusting one's ears as the absolute judge of quality. <<<

On that point, we are in complete agreement.

Happy listening!

Hi Zaikesman,

Caelin's recommendation of no shorter than a 1 meter length has to do as much with practicality than anything else. Although shorther than three feet essentially just adds connecting points and puts you kissing distance from your Romex--so what's the point of a nice PC, then?

Often times the IEC of a component is inverted (upside down). If you say, order a two foot length measuring fom IEC to the wall. You get the cord, then realize than you have to turn or invert it to match the outlet in the wall, guess what, it's too short. That, and the loss of resale value and in our opinion, a performance loss, are the reasons I warn customers that want a one-meter or shorter power cord.

Regarding Guido's reference to a 30 foot power cord we made: Astoria Studios (Pink Floyd) requested a 6ft Anaconda to try with their Studer Master Deck. We supplied a 6ft length for eval. hey were skeptical that it would make _any_ difference because all the power supplies of their electronics were heavily modified by Tim Diparavacini.

They had to wheel the Studer deck across the floor for the eval because the 6ft length of the power cord was far too short. Based on listening results, they ordered a 30 foot Anaconda to allow the distance required for the Studer's normal place on the floor.

Soon after recieving the 30 footer (we took pics before shipping as its the longest we've made), the studio manager called us to ask what the new, incredible model was as it was light years better than what we had sent for test. We explained why the difference existed and they understood. Since then, they have been our greatest protagonists in the pro realm and ordered more than $150k worth of product. Anectodal, sure. However, in such a high rez application, it speaks loudly to our point. Wont be true of all PC's likely, but it is with ours.

YMMV

Zaikesman,

The post you refer to is circa 2000 and was not an "article", but just a posted response to an antagonistic diatribe from a someone that was casting stones at anything that related to power products.

Caelin stated his opinion in response to several people that were calling all power products BS. It wasn't intended to be any complete answer to the question in this thread. Sorry, I don't see any cop out there, we're talking _six_ years ago and an unrelated thread and generally, unrelated questions.

The term "Cop Out" as you used it, is grossly unwarranted in this circumstance, and brings my knee up a bit, maybe my fault, but it is grossly misapplied.

You want to debate physics, science and power cord length or anything else power related? e-mail me and I'll send you Caelin's contact info, or contact me, I promise not to "cop out".

There's no "cop out" here Zaikesman. I get tired of such snide comments from anomymous posters that have nothing to lose in name calling and defaming any company they choose. The term "cop out" tipped me over, and it was unfair to use it in this context. Of course\ this is just IMO---feel free to judge my affiliation since I'm the marketing and sales director for Shunyata.

Compared to what get's propogated on these forums as legitimate info that is actually baseless speculation, covert marketing, nonsense technobabble, or chest puffing, Caelin's circa 2000 respose to antagonists posts is a--" cop out"? I beg to differ.

You claiming that bothers me. You're judging a "post" from six years ago that was not intended to answer anything in this thread. Your use of the term "cop out" simply doesn't fit, and I'm asking you to take it back. Reference us any which way you want, we're no "cop outs."

We're much more accessible for judgement than the moniker "Zaikesman" or any of the other "moniker" or fake name on this site. Shouldn't that make people act more responsibly in their comments/attacks on companies that can't hide their names? I guess not.

YMMV.

Regards,

Grant

Sorry Zaikesman,

I stayed up far too late last night and was feeling punchy after spending too many hours composing new web content.

I overreacted to your cop-out comment and replied with a vigor I should reserve for more important things.

Funny, to wake up with a fresh mind one day, and be surprised at what you wrote with a sleepy, work addled mind the night before.

My apologies.

Grant

Tplavas: Cryogenics? More fodder for lots of circular argument. I'll stear clear of that one. :-)

Thanks Alex,

Regarding 1meter or less, we get at least 2 dozen direct queries (phone calls) a year for one-meter or less PC's, maybe half of which are asking after less than one meter.

These phone or e-mail queries are all directed to me and I do my level best to inform, not dissuade the purchase of a 1m PC. We will not make a shorter length, but I am aware of companies that will, and do.

There is a growing contingent of "I don't want my wife or I to see any cable" customers. They are out there and I hear from some of them. There is no great savings btw a 1m and a 1.8m power cord as most of the labor is in the terminations, so when I explain, most understand, other than those concerned more with aesthetics. Stll, we made over 900 1m power cords last year, so there are those that just order them outright, and have them. I'm guessing, but I'd predict most of those 1m sales were overseas.

Regards,

Mr Hogwash.