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Long cables from turntable or phono stage

Hi I have a question that involves a compromise. I have a turntable that (for various reasons) has to be positioned a little distance from the hifi, about 4m of cable. Would it be better to connect the turntable (transcriptors hydraulic reference, ADC XLM ii) to the phono stage (moon 110LP) then run long singled ended cable to the amplifier or should I run long extension cable from the turntable to the phono stage and use a short interconnect from the phono stage to the amplifier? For visual reasons the latter is better. Any thoughts?
(Amp is plinius tautoro/SA103, speakers confidence C1 Dynaudio, tautoro is the line stage only version).
ninox

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nick_sr
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Connect the TT to the phono stage with shortest cables possible. Then run long interconnects to the pre.

The inductance of the phono interconnect will vary directly with the length and this could cause issues for the loading of the cartridge. If the specs are known for the phono interconnect then you could potentially account for the high inductance by chaning the loading settings on the phono pre.
nick_sr
263 posts
 
Ralph(Atamsphere) What is meant by
if you run it balanced
aren't all phono cables RCA unbalanced?
nick_sr
263 posts
 
The bottom line seems to be that without a balanced phono stage, you can't have a balanced connection even if cartridge output is inherently balanced.

Or could you use a Jensen transformer (Balanced line in to SE output)as was suggested to me in another thread?

Also I assume that by using a SUT, it would play the same role as the Jensen, while stepping up the voltage?
nick_sr
263 posts
 
Ralph, when i rewired my tone arm recently, I used a Mogami 2549 cable, 2 conductor with a shield. The left and right +/- were connected to their respective blue and clear conductors and the shields from both the left and right wire were connected to the ground lead at the TT and left floating at the preamp end. The separate ground lead is then connected to the chassis of the preamp.

Is my understanding correct from the previous posts above, even though this configuration mimics a balanced connection it cannot be one given that the preamp input is single ended (RCA)?
nick_sr
263 posts
 
Ralph thanks for the response! It confirms what I thought. @EBM the unfortunate reality is that somewhere in your system you going to have long cables, be it speaker cables or interconnects. Unless of course you are using a Bose Wave system :o>
nick_sr
263 posts
 
Db,

Here is the link to the Mogami spec sheet:

http://www.mogamicable.com/category/bulk/microphone/quality_balanced/

I bought my cable online at Redco Audio in CT
nick_sr
263 posts
 
I think they sound great, since trying them on my TT, I also made myself a pair of 8ft ICs for pre to power amps connection. I used Canare connectors.

The green wire covered by silver tech flex looks pretty nice, I have pics on my system page.
nick_sr
263 posts
 
Db,

Are you soldering your own terminations or will you be buying a finished product?

If you are buying the bulk cable, Redco sells the 2549 at 0.80$/ft and the 2534 at 1.12$/ft.

2549 has lower capacitance but not by much and the 2534 is better for noise cancellation.
nick_sr
263 posts
 
Let me know how it turns, maybe I will need to tryout the 2534 too.
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