list of speakers

@knotscott thank you! I admit, I still find errors here and there (100 hours visual cut and paste) so hopefully it reflects those data accurately.

@zo6ak Thanks! Those Revels are one of the highest regarded speakers on these pages

@russbutton the list is for full range 2 channel speakers. NOT systems. Nor subs. Or sound bars or swim goggles

@larryi I will, thank you!

@russbutton I am the opposite with building things. I spent a week building a WC10 case for my daughter's Marantz 1060, brought it up to her and.... it did not fit!!! 1/10 of an inch too small. And it's just wood. Imagine if I touched a transistor!  

I envy people who can build things. I can't even open something and put it back together without breaking it. 

But I enjoy good sound and thanks for sharing the link and the story!

thank you @daviddas! You are very kind.

Every time I add another data type it's a great way to QC the existing data
(and of course shows a lot of errors I made, I am so bad at entering data)

Kind of like displaying stuff on a map!

Thank you @rocray you are very kind! I love your system and pictures.

@daviddas what do you think? :)

@nonoise I added Revival because of your comments and reviews :)

@julie_priest thank you! Are you not seeing ATC?

@lanx0003 sent it

@normb I agree that it's frustrating. But in the same time, it's feedback too. I am not perfect either and can occasionally pick up the glove - I should just focus on the positive responses.

switched to https

@thecarpathian my English needs a lot of corrections, I welcome any feedback, thanks!

@larryi 

It might be interesting if visitors to your site could somehow register their approval of specific models, perhaps a one to five star rating system.

that's a cool idea. As soon I get some traction and traffic, I will look into it.

Thank you all for the kind words.

@daviddas thank you! Again, I couldn’t have gotten here without your help!

@tomic601 thank you! You inspired a lot of my efforts, to "give back" to the community, in kind.

All of you who mentioned that a lot is missing: very true. Not only that, since I began, many models went out of production. Just to keep the list up to date is going to be a task. Nevertheless, I will add all I can. I had to set a goal (~300) otherwise I would have been collecting data forever. I also have a dilemma of more data on what I have or more models.

@larryi @thecarpathian @yogiboy I will add these items, thank you.
I tried to do a sample. a few from each region, a few from each price range, etc., nevertheless I didn’t want to exclude (or upset) any important brands,

I also thought of a few more features, such as mapping where they can be heard but that’s a bit more time than I have.

@shtinkydog many thanks to you too :)

Back to updating the list....

thank you @ghdprentice, means a lot from you 

@danbro 

thanks for the correction, I will fix it.

I agree that more models would be good. However, it's a sample database, not a comprehensive one. If it were, I would be doing this full time. It was just a weekend project. Well. about 7 weekends. But I am interested in adding more models, just not across the entire model line, more like everything between 1 and 5K. 

@jperry I think it’s a great idea, thank you, I am moving it the top of my list. It would make it very easy for me. I thought of two more flags, "discontinued" and "new" which then the manufacturers could give me too.

I did reach out to a lot of them to get or clarify data. At that point I had nothing to show. Out of 20 (repeated) requests, I received 2 responses. Hopefully it would be different this time.

@waytoomuchstuff we all win :)

@thecarpathian I will start with geography/maps which is part of my day job. I am still too dumb about which measurements really matter. All your suggestions are added to my todo my list :)

@carlsbad2 I agree with you, ratings can be a pain. But my biggest concern is that without critical mass, it will be more confusing than valuable. It would also be counterproductive to my goal (I think) because it would further popularize the best selling models and "leave" the unknowns behind. My goal is to show the breadth of options and thereby help the "little guy" - to give choices besides the "Toyotas and BMWs"

@yesiam_a_pirate thank you! I suck at monetizing things so I usually get "in the shed" on the weekend for the labor of love :)  But nothing is free in life, so yes, adding new features and data would be boosted if it was run a bit less like a hobby.

@falconquest the items on the list are companies I have heard of or read about. I knew of Legacy Audio but I had zero context.  I will add it of course. Please forgive me, it won't happen again :)

@ronboco I did what I could, I started with cheapest and most expensive model and then one from each category of 1-2K, 6-10K, 16-20K. Then I tried to make sure to have a somewhat even representation of a company's selection. For big brands, I added at least 5 models.

@mbmi if it’s 1/3 already, that would be sweet. But it’s probably even less.

@mbmi  also if you tell me what’s not on this list or give me pointers, that would help ,

hi @lanx0003 

I already planned TAD. Mission, Cabasse and Devialet I have also heard of, will add those for sure. 

I will message you a question about your suggestion. 

Thanks for the feedback. 

 I tried to add the companies first that some of you suggested. I am not adding anything that doesn't have any data, and I spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to find the company's founding date and headquarters/factory city for a few of them - hours. I emailed the companies and none of them responded. So what you see is mostly the companies that I had the time to research and found data for. It takes about 30 min for each company and if I am lucky, 30 min for 3-5 speakers to properly enter into the database. I sent out a lot of emails for missing info, with a 3% response rate, 1% useful info. I know it because it was ONE company willing to send me a price list. 

@shtinkydog yes! The preamp sounds fabulous!!!

@lanx0003 It's reassuring that you didn't see a lot of deviations. 

I found a site, with the help of Erin's Audio Corner:spinorama.org - with a lot of models!

And you overestimate what I know :)

But I am using my ignorance as a strength, I know what beginner's do: very little. 

@lanx0003 this is better than what I expected. I am learning a lot from you. And this is exactly the direction I wanted to go: to translate raw and scary numbers to adjectives and comparable rankings that beginners can use to educate themselves and make somewhat more informed decision, try speakers with more confidence. So, in short, yes, absolutely, I want to explore it further with you, properly credit sources and contributions and expand my database with more useful features.

I am getting my head around what you wrote and how I can use that data.

thanks @lanx0003 !

I spent 100s of hours looking up and entering this data, and now I was told frequency range published by the manufacturers can be unreliable/can't be trusted. 

It's a wild ride, but fun.

Hi @lanx0003 did you get my emails? I have a couple questions. Thanks! Gabor

@russbutton I took the time to read your passive aggressive post and respond. Now you are attacking me. (While I admit, and always say, I am no expert, not at all.)

But let’s put it aside, maybe you have some issues you need to work on. And I am a sensitive person, after 200 hours of "community work", I hope for intelligible and not insulting feedback. Which was, out of 50+ comments - about 48/50, so I am happy with it.

About the substance of your posts: very confusing

it’s a system, not just a loudspeaker.

Any time you match amplification with loudspeakers, it’s a system

Which one is it? Are you contradicting yourself?

But it’s OK. I don’t have time for this. We can agree that we disagree and I always learn, one way or another.

@tunehead

I haven’t done it. There are a lot of pros and cons of doing it and I am open to input/data entry/feedback/corrections to well meaning fellow enthusiasts and manufacturers as I posted it to the website with my contact.

I just want to control what goes in, my time is limited and I prefer quality over quantity.

Ironically I absolutely suck at details, data entry, accuracy, it takes me 4 times more to generate clean data than for a "normal" person. So I pick my battles, do I want to enter data or have someone else enter it and I validate it? I spent $200 on fiverr during the summer to have someone else enter 3 days’ worth of data. It took me weeks to fix it. (And this was after corresponding with 10+ people nobody cared to do it for whatever $.) Yes, I learn from my own mistakes :) I could have so used that money for an upgrade... but truthfully, I would have tried the outsourcing anyway, no regrets.

Sorry for the long winded answer. Your idea is great, it would add a lot of benefits, I just don’t have the time to implement it - yet.

@normb thank you! It's a start, and becoming a team effort. I hope it will grow into a decent list.

thank you @russbutton  for the clarification. Sound like these speakers/speaker system is on another level.

@lanx0003 @daviddas @tomic601 I finally added photos and a few more fields. It's a good thing I didn't know how long the photos would take me because I would have then never started :) 

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