Linn LP 12 hum not coming from Bryton phono stage.


I’m getting a pretty significant hum with my Linn Sondek LP12 turntable sitting on top of my equipment stand. My new Bryston MM phono stage does not hum at all when the turntable RCA interconnects are disconnected.

Yes, I have the grounding wire attached to the grounding lug on the phono preamp. I plan to move the TT to the original Sound Organization wall shelf to get it away from the adjacent electronics.

Will moving it to the wall shelf do anything to eliminate hum? What about transitioning to the better "Radikal" power supply and DC motor (the original has the Valhalla board I believe and the AC motor).

Thanks, for any suggestion you might have for things I can check.


edit: I must be tired, I noted that I mis-spelled Bryston as "Bryton". Titles cannot be edited, arghh!

masi61

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Thanks for the replies, the cartridge is a Linn K9 MM. I did move the table to the other end of my double wide equipment stand. It definitely hums when playing music - which kind of stinks because my digital system is dead quiet. No WiFi or routers are nearby.


I will have to check and see if it hums while the RCA's are connected but the power cord is disconnected.

I will be taking it in to get an upgraded (Radikal, Akurate chassis) power supply and motor later this summer. It will be interesting to see if this eliminates the hum.


@daveyf  - I'm glad to hear you say that the Bryston Phono stage is really good. I don't have much to compare it to other than the one in my old NAD pre-amp. The gain on my MM only stage is a bit lower apparently than is should be because on some records I have noticed a need to turn the volume control up quite a bit higher compared with my Sony XA-5400ES SACD player or my Wadia -171i iPod dock.

@lewm  - I have noticed that occasionally the hum increases after the turntable has been running for a bit. I mean when I first turn on the turntable the hum is barely audible. By the end of the first side of music, it starts to become intrusive.

I had already planned to update the power supply for the supposed improved sonics and the ability to play 45's.

Update on my path to quieting my phono(Linn Sondek LP12 w/ Bryston BP-2 MM is overdue...

I returned from Ann Arbor Michigan where I had taken the turntable to Overture Audio and Thomas O'Keefe there did a fantastic job doing a whole bunch of upgrades on it. I lost the Valhalla power supply and now have the Radikal power supply. I went all in and have the new Karousel bearing installed on a Greenstreet Audio (Keel copy) CNC milled aluminum subchassis. I got the "Adikt" MM cartridge to replace my aging K9 cartridge.

When I hooked it up, it still hummed!

So I contacted Gary Dayton with Bryston and he said that I need a "Y" connector to go from my BP26 preamp to Bryston Power supply. When I first hooked it up it started making a police siren sound! I freaked and had to power the system down since the police siren noise was increasing in volume.

I had to take a time out and go out and do some yard work as I pondered what to do next....

Update to follow since I am at work right now and my laptop is about to die....

Thanks for your interest @noromance  & @daveyf .

I had a hunch that the Maze Audio Krell cryo power cord that I had running to my Bryston BIT-15 power conditioner from the wall might in some way be contributing to the wild "siren" sound loop that went nuts when I turned on the phono input. So I put the stock cord back on. The wild shrieking sound mostly went away, then after a time it appeared to completely dissipate.

The "Y" connector taps into the umbilical power cord that runs from my Bryston outboard power supply and BP-26 preamp. It does appear to that everything is operating normally now. My tonearm cable has not one but two grounding wires which are both connected to the Bryston phono stage. Other than RCA interconnects from the phono stage to the BP-26 preamp I do no see any option for an extra ground wire to be run between the 2.

Yes Thomas tested my LP12 for hum and it actually had NO hum issues before or after the installation of the Radikal power supply and motor upgrade. Right now I'm just beginning the process of listening to a bunch of my old and new vinyl records. The sound quality is really, really wonderful so far. I am out of practice with my vinyl care and have lots of questions. I'll probably continue to write about my experiences with all of this. Strangely, with the Adikt cartridge twice now at the end of the record, the stylus just kept on going and skated right onto the paper disc in the middle. I did use the tonearm lift quickly both times so hopefully the stylus is not damaged by this.

@lewm :  I was definitely concerned that the sound was getting louder. 

I plan to message Maze Audio about what happened. When I installed the "Krell Cryo" power cord from the wall outlet to my power conditioner, it did not seem to change the SQ much but I have 2 more of the same power cords. Another one runs from the power conditioner to the power supply for the Bryston BP-26 preamp. It did impact the SQ if I recall. I think it made the sound quality more detailed and dynamics more prominent. 

But why a my phono stage would go crazy just being turned on (without even playing a record yet) is bizarre! Apparently there was some feedback loop that got triggered, but how?
@noromance  - The Ittok was tested by Thomas as part of my turntable service and he said is "exceeded spec" with the pendulum test. 
I think the couple of times where the needle skipped onto the paper lable was right as I was about to reach for the tonearm lift and inadvertently jostled the suspension simultaneously. Apparently I drink too much coffee or I am developing a tremor.... but just to play it safe I have been very attentive as I listen and get up out of my chair promptly near the end of the last song on each record side.