Like Cain Ben's set up hollow sounding


We have some DIY Cain Ben's with F120A drivers that we just can't seem to tame the hollow sound like listening in a cave? It is a simple system Passion Pak i10 integrated Sony 555es driving the speakers with Element cables. 1st problem noted by others might be the deal breaker the room 25x16 cathedral ceiling 24' up opening to another 25 off the 25 into a lower ceiling room. The speakers are on the 16'x10' heigh wall with the ceiling going up. The speakers they are replacing did quite well Reynaud Twins which were limited in bass but did well other wise. We do not play our music loud but loud or soft the hollow cave effect seems to stay with us. We moved them well into the room helped a little 48" out from the back wall into the room but still there is the sense you are looking into the performance, it kind of brought it out more into the room but still hollow sounding. We stuffed everything we have pillows wool ,,,,,,,,, into them and this helped some but lost some of the live sound? not muffled but not as open? Read one post that said cables Paul Speltz made a difference another post Sistrum stands another thought amp made the difference. Seems this can be a problem with this type of speaker? They look great and at times the sound is right and good bass. Any thoughts I would greatly appreciate them. Thank you
johnbonn

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Since I'm new to HE speakers, perhaps I should not comment. But a couple of points strike me. It may help to know I recently purchased a pair of Cain & Cain BEN singles.

First, the C&C may have been the inspiration for Johnbonn's speakers but Terry Cain was a woodworker/builder, not a designer. To copy from that design I would think one would look back to Fostex for the original plans and specs.

Second, Cain & Cain used the FE 208E Sigma driver in the BEN cabinet, not the F120A. If the "Vas" spec indicates cabinet volume, the 208E is 60.1 liters while the 120A is 9.9, a difference of over 6X. Could that alone account for the "in the cave" sound? This may be restating Johnk's comments in a slightly different way.

My BENS are in a 20 x 17 x 11 room and sound quite natural and "uncave" like.