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Active platforms cannot see into the future to react to events that have not yet occurred. Active devices respond in Milli seconds so their rise time can never trace a real time event. Active platforms react to motion with counter motion of their own. Counter motions in both active platforms and suspended platforms average and blend all shear waves in mass. Polarities of shear are fundamental to all things that vibrate. Two things that contains vast and continual amounts of shear are vinyl records and any loudspeaker. To counter either of these audio elements with motion canceling, especially after the real time event has passed reduces efficiency of the device and serves the retention and storage of interfering energy which is added back into the signal path.. Tom

Butt Geoff in your state of the art 900 sq ft.condo in the heart of suburbia how could you implement stage 4 LIGO into the regular audio crib with real speakers or in your case headphones? Build us a bridge over your own  sheep do do.

Fifteen years ago a audio buddy came to me to ask advice on what to replace his CJ MV 75a tube power amp with. Have had the same amp previous I knew what it was and how to make it perform better. Instead of beating him up to buy a replacement amp..I sent him home with a Sistrum Sp1 platform so he could direct couple his power amp to his floor or shelf system..I don't remember which it was. 

He called me the next day to tell me he no longer needed an amp and thanked me for the transformation that occurred when he removed the Townshend Seismic Sink and replaced it with the Sistrum Sp1.The fat bass blurr was  gone the stage was more open and defined and there was an impression of greater dynamics and power. He said he now knew what the amp could do and thanked me for the advice and for saving him a few large. Cliff still has the amp (re-tubed) and still has it atop the Sp1.Tom

So Geoff last week you twice called me a monkey and now at the start of this new week you have called me a liar....

We should compare product feedback on our respective websites..I have testimonials from musicians (Not UFO’s) from around the world.. and links to their performances using my products all based on direct coupling..and dispersal of certain wave types. You have no clue about what I am doing.. what we are doing..and you are 20 years behind...Not all waves are compressive and the ones that corrupt the most are not compressive.. they occur in all solid materials and shapes. Tom

Our seismologist does.. she has another home in Oregon..She also knows about man made swarms as she has been a consultant in the oil and gas industry as well as a construction soil consultant in Arizona, Colorado and Oklahoma.. Tom

Geoff,

Like me she is not a monkey or a liar..Tom

and speakers ..and anything else that comes in contact with 1 or more room boundary,etc, etc. All the objects mentioned can have their interfering energy reduced by mechanical grounding so the contaminating energy is not added back into the sound of the room and the music. Some of us have installed Audio Points and coupling discs under chairs, cabinets and many decorative pieces that hang from walls and ceilings..doing this for several years. Same holds true for musical instruments and any of their speakers and electronics. Tom ..Star Sound Technologies

Everything in the room is a passive radiator and is at the mercy of its own geometric shape and material makeup.

A table which may have a glass top and rests on round wooden legs will have a different influence on the sound in a room versus the the same glass top on square wooden legs...All of this has to do with the velocity of these materials and the fact that they have different boundary layer shapes that interact with each other. All these different materials and shapes that touch reflect shear waves back and forth. So while you have only 2 materials you will have many different wave polarities and speeds determined by the dimensions and shapes and where the point source originates. All of these furniture pieces have multiple speeds even when made of only one material.  Springs will not stop this from happening because the wave front is compressive and then becomes shear which cannot be isolated in solid materials. It still is a passive radiator at all frequencies. Material choice, interactive shapes, proximity to other boundaries and the fact that they are grounded or not determines their sound and influence in an audio room. Mechanical grounding is the best method for the reduction of interfering energy. Other methods only serve to increase its time span . Tom

Geoff

The problem is you lumping everything under the umbrella covering term ...isolation. Not much can be isolated if anything especially when it comes to energy running thru solids..The solutions to the problems must be looked for.. outside the confines of the term "isolation". The simple term "isolation" limits the whole process of the understanding and reduction of interfering energy.  Tom

You advocate blunt force solutions such as springs and damping which blinds you from looking and understanding how energy runs and then returns thru solids and their intersecting  boundaries.  Keep looking.
Tom